Engraved Panabas, how old is it.

Ian · 8th July 2015, 02:38 PM

This one is clearly made as a weapon, although a number of these style of panabas appear to have been made for sale to non-Moros and have unsharpened, thinner blades with flimsier construction. I had a couple of these "tourist" versions for a while before moving them on. The similar one shown in Krieger's plates is the earliest example of this style that I have seen.

The okir engraving on the blade certainly fits with a Maranao origin IMO. Yours does not seem to have seen much action, and I think it is probably early 20th C judging from its appearance.

Ian.

drac2k · 8th July 2015, 02:52 PM

Thanks, for your input.

Battara · 9th July 2015, 02:13 AM

Ian (of course) is on the money on this. All I have to offer is that this would not be for beheading but more the size for fighting.

You can fight with beheading ones, but they are thicker and the handle is longer and larger, giving it the heft for cutting through bone.

On the other hand, I wold think that the fighting ones would need to be lighter for swifter movement, and so they usually have shorter handles and are somewhat lighter in heft.

Yours is one of the few fighting ones that I have see engraved.

Very nice and congratulations on obtaining such a piece (grumble, grumble, envy, envy

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drac2k · 9th July 2015, 03:34 AM

Thanks, it was just pure luck.It came with the other panabas made from a file and a barong with an unusual pommel .

Battara · 9th July 2015, 10:48 PM

Oh would you post those too, please?

Sajen · 10th July 2015, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Oh would you post those too, please?

One of the both you can see here Jose: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20167

Best regards,
Detlef

Battara · 11th July 2015, 03:10 AM

Got it. Thanks Detlef. I'll turn my brain on now....

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8th July 2015, 02:38 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,470	This one is clearly made as a weapon, although a number of these style of panabas appear to have been made for sale to non-Moros and have unsharpened, thinner blades with flimsier construction. I had a couple of these "tourist" versions for a while before moving them on. The similar one shown in Krieger's plates is the earliest example of this style that I have seen. The okir engraving on the blade certainly fits with a Maranao origin IMO. Yours does not seem to have seen much action, and I think it is probably early 20th C judging from its appearance. Ian.

8th July 2015, 02:52 PM	#2
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,282	Thanks, for your input.

9th July 2015, 02:13 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,325	Ian (of course) is on the money on this. All I have to offer is that this would not be for beheading but more the size for fighting. You can fight with beheading ones, but they are thicker and the handle is longer and larger, giving it the heft for cutting through bone. On the other hand, I wold think that the fighting ones would need to be lighter for swifter movement, and so they usually have shorter handles and are somewhat lighter in heft. Yours is one of the few fighting ones that I have see engraved. Very nice and congratulations on obtaining such a piece (grumble, grumble, envy, envy )........

9th July 2015, 03:34 AM	#4
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,282	Thanks, it was just pure luck.It came with the other panabas made from a file and a barong with an unusual pommel .

9th July 2015, 10:48 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,325	Oh would you post those too, please?

11th July 2015, 03:10 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,325	Got it. Thanks Detlef. I'll turn my brain on now....