Two Kris for comment, and a new member who's eager to learn.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Rafngard

First of all, thank you very much for your welcome and your opinion. This is very helpful. Also, more pics are now posted.

Can I ask what some of the factors that brought to to that opinion are? Is some of it the shape of the gangya, in particular, what on a keris would be called the gerneng and the kembang kecang? Apologies if I'm misusing the terms, I haven't had much luck finding equivalent terms for the kris, though I admit I have yet to read Cato's book (used copies are rather cost prohibitive currently).

I'm eager to learn, and any help you can give this newbie would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again,
Leif

Hi Leif, welcome .
I think you would be well served by checking through the forum archives; there is treasure to be found there in both the Ethnographic and Keris forums .

Yes, the terminology is confusing, and many names for the same feature; what the Javanese would call the Greneng are the notches filed into the tail of the blade where it widens at the hilt .
Kembang Kacang relates to the features found on the opposite side from the Greneng specifically, IIRC, the part that looks like an elephant's trunk .
The differences in this feature area help to identify the tribal or island Moro groups .
I would agree with what Battara has observed about the two examples you have shown us .