Interesting Philippine Sundang for comment

[DaveS]

Originally Posted by drac2k

Thanks Dave, I thought it could be post WW2, but it is of pretty good quality; are the inlays silver ? It is a distinctive blade; any way of knowing who made it ?
It would be great seeing yours, intact.Any chance ?

drac2k: Here is mine. Aside from the silver handle, it is virtually identical to yours. I still feel that this a late 40s early 50s kris. One way to tell if something is silver is to put a dab of full strength ferric chloride on the part to be tested. If it is silver it will turn black or at least a darker color depending on the percentage of alloy it contains.....works for me............Dave.

[drac2k]

Great blade and great handle ! Thanks for the info.After reading all of the threads, I could go either way, but now I'm leaning towards the 1930's theory ; either way, I'm happy with the kris .

[Amuk Murugul]

redundancy

[CharlesS]

Hi Drac and Dave,

Regarding age, Dave your example is made without a separate 'ganja' and I do believe that one is a later one, but Drac's example has the separate ganja and the workmanship(chiseling and silver inlay) seems a bit crisper, though the curves do seem awfully 'extreme' for an earlier example.

I think that example is more likely early 20th century though the blade's exaggerated curves, especially at the forte, seem to argue against it a bit.

[DaveS]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Hi Drac and Dave,

Regarding age, Dave your example is made without a separate 'ganja' and I do believe that one is a later one, but Drac's example has the separate ganja and the workmanship(chiseling and silver inlay) seems a bit crisper, though the curves do seem awfully 'extreme' for an earlier example.

I think that example is more likely early 20th century though the blade's exaggerated curves, especially at the forte, seem to argue against it a bit.

Charles: After looking much closer at his pictures, it does indeed have a two piece ganja. With just a quick look i missed it. It probably does place it a generation or two earlier than at first glance. Apparently sharp lucs might not always be an indicator of later pieces............Dave.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Charles: After looking much closer at his pictures, it does indeed have a two piece ganja. With just a quick look i missed it. It probably does place it a generation or two earlier than at first glance. Apparently sharp lucs might not always be an indicator of later pieces............Dave.

I also noticed the seperate ganja at first, so I have to agree with Dave.

[David]

Gentleman, is it beyond reason to believe that a post WWII kris could be crafted WITH a separate gangya? Sure, it's probably a rare occurrence, but then so is a pre-WWII kris with pointy luks. Another clue might be found in the metal itself. Is this laminated or mono steel? I'm fairly certain that is just design work and that this is not a twisted core. Can't really see any definite lines of lamination throughout either. If it is mono steel AND has pointy luks i would be more inclined to a later dating.

[CharlesS]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Charles: After looking much closer at his pictures, it does indeed have a two piece ganja. With just a quick look i missed it. It probably does place it a generation or two earlier than at first glance. Apparently sharp lucs might not always be an indicator of later pieces............Dave.

Dave,

I learned a long time ago that as soon as we make "rules" about things such as origins, age, terminology, etc., within no time something will come along to challenge the 'rule', so I am always open to possibilities of variations, and
"no rules" when it comes to analyzing things now...I am sure you know what I mean!...and this certainly could apply to this kriss.