Where can we get Cold Blue? Attn Alan Maisey or anyone who lives in Australia

A. G. Maisey · 24th February 2014, 07:52 PM

I'm not sure that it will stain nickelous pamor in the same way as it will ferric material. I have never tried a full blade, only ever used it to touch up worn areas. I think that the effect on nickel would probably be that it would give it a brownish tinge, but I think this could probably be polished off with steel wool on a toothpick. With care you could fake a proper stain I believe.

However, the problem is this:- not all pamor is simple modern nickel. If its pamor Luwu it will most likely contain iron, and that will stain dark and be uncleanable. If it is high phosphorus iron it will stain just the same as the rest of the blade, but with a different colour.

Best to limit the use of cold blue to a touch up job.

silkreeler · 25th February 2014, 01:49 PM

Many thanks. I will stick to my original intention - covering patches previously filled by rust (mostly black are anyway) as well as tangs / pesi. Off to harass my Australian cousin!!

GIO · 25th February 2014, 02:04 PM

Such products are difficult to find. I was told that the chemical composition prevents from shipping via air mail.

silkreeler · 1st September 2014, 07:23 AM

My Australian cousin got me my Birchwood Casey pen and boy I was so happy with it. First tried it on the tip of my Dwi Sula that was bent and got hammered back to shape, scratching off some of the warangan in the process. Then I re stained that part to perfection with the pen, the color was unnoticeable. Will try on something more ambitious later. Thanks again, Alan Maisey.

A. G. Maisey · 1st September 2014, 09:36 AM

You're welcome.

Yeah, it does a nice touch-up job, one of these days I'll try it on a complete blade.

I don't have a pen, I've got a very small bottle of the stuff, near as I can figure I've had that bottle for close on 50 years, and its still got about a quarter in it. Mostly I use it to touch-up my rifles.

Gajah · 3rd September 2014, 01:03 PM

I usually pay 200,000 IDR – that's about 17 USD/18 AUD/13 EUR – at a small shop in Jakarta that sends the blades to Yogyakarta AFAIK. I'm quite satisfied with the results, a good contrast, and so far the color didn't rub off or faded. Of course only time will tell how long it lasts, but for this small amount of money I'm not going to experiment myself. I'm not sure, however, if the clouds are properly observed …

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24th February 2014, 07:52 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,228	I'm not sure that it will stain nickelous pamor in the same way as it will ferric material. I have never tried a full blade, only ever used it to touch up worn areas. I think that the effect on nickel would probably be that it would give it a brownish tinge, but I think this could probably be polished off with steel wool on a toothpick. With care you could fake a proper stain I believe. However, the problem is this:- not all pamor is simple modern nickel. If its pamor Luwu it will most likely contain iron, and that will stain dark and be uncleanable. If it is high phosphorus iron it will stain just the same as the rest of the blade, but with a different colour. Best to limit the use of cold blue to a touch up job.

25th February 2014, 01:49 PM	#2
silkreeler Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 27	Many thanks. I will stick to my original intention - covering patches previously filled by rust (mostly black are anyway) as well as tangs / pesi. Off to harass my Australian cousin!!

25th February 2014, 02:04 PM	#3
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 335	Such products are difficult to find. I was told that the chemical composition prevents from shipping via air mail.

1st September 2014, 07:23 AM	#4
silkreeler Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 27	My Australian cousin got me my Birchwood Casey pen and boy I was so happy with it. First tried it on the tip of my Dwi Sula that was bent and got hammered back to shape, scratching off some of the warangan in the process. Then I re stained that part to perfection with the pen, the color was unnoticeable. Will try on something more ambitious later. Thanks again, Alan Maisey.

1st September 2014, 09:36 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,228	You're welcome. Yeah, it does a nice touch-up job, one of these days I'll try it on a complete blade. I don't have a pen, I've got a very small bottle of the stuff, near as I can figure I've had that bottle for close on 50 years, and its still got about a quarter in it. Mostly I use it to touch-up my rifles.

3rd September 2014, 01:03 PM	#6
Gajah Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 9	I usually pay 200,000 IDR – that's about 17 USD/18 AUD/13 EUR – at a small shop in Jakarta that sends the blades to Yogyakarta AFAIK. I'm quite satisfied with the results, a good contrast, and so far the color didn't rub off or faded. Of course only time will tell how long it lasts, but for this small amount of money I'm not going to experiment myself. I'm not sure, however, if the clouds are properly observed …