Arabic? inscription on a sikin panjang - translation welcome

Loedjoe · 14th February 2014, 12:15 PM

Can any kind and knowledgeable person please help with a transcript and translation of the inscription on this sikin panjang? I am told that it is Arabic, not Malay. I suspect from information already received that it may be a religious quotation, rather than an owner's name?? Two pictures of the inscription, in the hope that between them it will be clear enough to read. (No scabbard, by the way)

KraVseR · 14th February 2014, 12:22 PM

I think that this is Peudeueng Panjang.

Loedjoe · 14th February 2014, 01:05 PM

I have seen these called Peudeueng panjang, and it seems to be an accepted alternative name, but I follow the admirable book by Van Zonneveld, Traditional weapons ...; but perhaps I should change my mind about what to call this type?

AhmedH · 14th February 2014, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loedjoe

I have seen these called Peudeueng panjang, and it seems to be an accepted alternative name, but I follow the admirable book by Van Zonneveld, Traditional weapons ...; but perhaps I should change my mind about what to call this type?

Salaams Loedjoe!

The Arabic inscription reads as follows:

اياك نعبد و اياك نستعين

Translation:

"It is you [Oh ALLAH!] whom we worship and whom we seek help from."

It is the 5th verse of Surat al-Fatihah; the first Surah of the Qur'an.

Hope this helps!

Best regards,

Ahmed Helal Hussein

PS: If there are any Arabic inscriptions that need to be read, could you please send me an alert via a private message, or even email me; and I'll give my reply in the open thread. I'm sorry, but sometimes I may miss a question that I know the answer of. Thanks a lot in advance.

asomotif · 15th February 2014, 12:27 AM

Nice Sikin panjang !
I am a bit surprised that the inscription is a koran verse.
Uptill now translations on this forum turned out to be jawi/malay in arabic characters.

Please use the search function and check threads with " translation + aceh"

You will find various Aceh weapons with inscriptions + their translations.

Best regards,
Willem

Loedjoe · 15th February 2014, 03:18 PM

Very many thanks, Ahmed Helal Hussein, I could not have asked for a better response - you have included everything I wanted to know. Thank you too for the offer to accept requests for translations through email - this may be very helpful (although this sikin, and one other sword, are the only two I have where the inscriptions are in Arabic rather than Jawi/Malay in Arabic characters).

Like you, Willem, I was surprised to find a religious inscription, in Arabic. I shall follow your advice for a search - thank you.

14th February 2014, 12:15 PM	#1
Loedjoe Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oxford (UK) Posts: 96	Arabic? inscription on a sikin panjang - translation welcome Can any kind and knowledgeable person please help with a transcript and translation of the inscription on this sikin panjang? I am told that it is Arabic, not Malay. I suspect from information already received that it may be a religious quotation, rather than an owner's name?? Two pictures of the inscription, in the hope that between them it will be clear enough to read. (No scabbard, by the way) Attached Images

14th February 2014, 12:22 PM	#2
KraVseR Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ukraine Posts: 128	I think that this is Peudeueng Panjang. Attached Images

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14th February 2014, 01:05 PM	#3
Loedjoe Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oxford (UK) Posts: 96	I have seen these called Peudeueng panjang, and it seems to be an accepted alternative name, but I follow the admirable book by Van Zonneveld, Traditional weapons ...; but perhaps I should change my mind about what to call this type?

15th February 2014, 12:27 AM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Nice Sikin panjang ! I am a bit surprised that the inscription is a koran verse. Uptill now translations on this forum turned out to be jawi/malay in arabic characters. Please use the search function and check threads with " translation + aceh" You will find various Aceh weapons with inscriptions + their translations. Best regards, Willem

15th February 2014, 03:18 PM	#6
Loedjoe Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oxford (UK) Posts: 96	Very many thanks, Ahmed Helal Hussein, I could not have asked for a better response - you have included everything I wanted to know. Thank you too for the offer to accept requests for translations through email - this may be very helpful (although this sikin, and one other sword, are the only two I have where the inscriptions are in Arabic rather than Jawi/Malay in Arabic characters). Like you, Willem, I was surprised to find a religious inscription, in Arabic. I shall follow your advice for a search - thank you.