Quest. about oriental round shield (Rondache)

Battara · 1st November 2005, 06:37 AM

Welcome Dom!

Don't worry - most of us aren't experts either.

To me your shield looks to be possibly from around Pakistan or Baluchistan, and made in the mid-late 20 century. I base this on the type and amount of decorations on the shield, the use of brass, and the sharpness of the cuts in the brass.

It would have had padding inside inbetween the leather pieces, in the middle. Nice leather braiding.

Aqtai · 3rd November 2005, 10:17 PM

Interesting piece. the style of decoration is very different to Indian dhals and Iranian Sipars. I won't even try and guess where it's from originally.

zalmoxis · 4th November 2005, 03:19 PM

It is Aceh from Sumatra.

Aqtai · 4th November 2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zalmoxis

It is Aceh from Sumatra.

Interesting, I don't think I've seen an Aceh shield before. Is it a ceremonial piece or were these shields actually used in combat?

Henk · 4th November 2005, 07:14 PM

I don't think this shield is from Aceh. The ornaments on the shield don't look Aceh to me. Persia or India is probably a better direction.

Lets wait for the shield experts to give their opinion.

Aqtai · 4th November 2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Henk

I don't think this shield is from Aceh. The ornaments on the shield don't look Aceh to me. Persia or India is probably a better direction.

Lets wait for the shield experts to give their opinion.

I doubt it's Iranian or Indian, have seen quite a few dhals and sipars, the style of decoration is very different.

Battara · 4th November 2005, 08:52 PM

I have seen some examples from Pakistan and Balukistan region that are very similar. No, it is not your usual dhal or sipar, and definitely not from Sumatra.

4th November 2005, 03:19 PM	#3
zalmoxis Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA USA Posts: 76	Shield It is Aceh from Sumatra.

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1st November 2005, 06:37 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,383	Welcome Dom! Don't worry - most of us aren't experts either. To me your shield looks to be possibly from around Pakistan or Baluchistan, and made in the mid-late 20 century. I base this on the type and amount of decorations on the shield, the use of brass, and the sharpness of the cuts in the brass. It would have had padding inside inbetween the leather pieces, in the middle. Nice leather braiding.

3rd November 2005, 10:17 PM	#2
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Interesting piece. the style of decoration is very different to Indian dhals and Iranian Sipars. I won't even try and guess where it's from originally.

4th November 2005, 07:14 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I don't think this shield is from Aceh. The ornaments on the shield don't look Aceh to me. Persia or India is probably a better direction. Lets wait for the shield experts to give their opinion.

4th November 2005, 08:52 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,383	I have seen some examples from Pakistan and Balukistan region that are very similar. No, it is not your usual dhal or sipar, and definitely not from Sumatra.