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			Splendid, Andi, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Great job - thanks a lot! When your are in Bavaria you should come and see me and my collection. Now how does that sound? Inciting, doesn't it?! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 5th October 2013 at 07:25 PM.  | 
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			Hello Matchlock! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thank you for your offer. Of course it is very inciting and it would a great honour to me. Thank you also for bringing my post to light again, as I gathered some more articles on the Tannenbergbüchse. According to Joachim von Wlassatys article Nachlass der Raubritter - 600 Jahre Tannenbergbüchse in Deutsches Waffen Journal 6/1999 the ramrod was separated (and the loading of the gonne and the rest of the survived tiller were removed from Tannenbergbüchse   ) before the Tannenbergbüchse was transferred to Germanisches Nationalmuseum in Nuremberg. As far as I interpret the article the ramrod (along with other finds) was probably lost during bombardements of Hessisches Landesmuseum Darmstadt in 1944   
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			Hi Andi, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	for clod shot, the earliest kind of lead or iron ammunition after gun arrows, please see my threads http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=clod+shot and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=clod+shot On my arguments on dating the Tannenberg barrel correctly (remember that it is not a complete gun as the tiller stock is mssing!), please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=tannenberg http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=tannenberg and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=tannenberg, plus a very similar tiller-stocked bronze gun of ca. 1480, formerly in my collection: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=tiller+bronze Best, Michael  | 
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			Close-up details of the Tannenberg brass/bronze barrels plus the iron ramrod - enjoy! 
		
		
		
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			gents,  
		
		
		
			could it be some kind of ramrod ?  | 
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			it was found near this handgun in Russia
		 
		
		
		
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			Hi Evgeny, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Do you have more images of that barrel: - the backsight - the rear of the breech - the form of the pan trough and touchhole How long is that barrel now and what is its bore/caliber? I could then tell with adequate authority about how old it really is, which could lead us to a better based identification of what I choose to just call a 'rod' for the time being. Best, Michael  | 
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