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Old 18th July 2013, 10:05 PM   #1
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Very nicely done Detlef.
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Old 19th July 2013, 06:14 PM   #2
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Very nicely done Detlef.
Thank you Alan.

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Old 14th December 2019, 06:17 AM   #3
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Apropos Kebo kanthong: is there a relationship between the name and the particular blade? "Waterbuffalo" seems an odd name for it.

Can anyone tell if dapur Kebo slurung is the same? I came across it with the 'hook' halfway the blade (so generally spoken the same as KK) but the it looks like a modified 'hook' to me. It doesn't come out just a cut in the blade, suspect?
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Old 16th December 2019, 01:54 AM   #4
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Paul, i photo of the entire blade would be helpful. But i see why you are suspicious and also suspect this might be an altered blade.
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Old 16th December 2019, 02:15 AM   #5
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There are a number of keris wilah that contain the word "kebo"/"mahesa" (same meaning, different language levels), they are all deemed to be very well suited to all those who work in primary production, ie farming, husbandry, and even the occupations that flow directly from these ones.
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Okay that's an eyeopener. Couldn't see a relation literally speaking.
Here is another pic and label. This SLURUNG dapur name is unknown?
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Old 16th December 2019, 04:33 PM   #7
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Paul, i had not heard of Kebo Slurung before, but when i did a search for it i found a number of examples of blades with an extra long gandik (even for the kebo keris in general), but no Kembang Kacang. I know this form as Kebo Giri, but i am aware that as with all things keris there are other names for this dhapur in different regions. But it does look like the keris you are showing here is mislabelled since it clear does have Kembang Kacang. I am still a little suspicious of that Kembang Kacang however. It isn't really possible for me to tell with this photographs, but it does appear to be a later addition. As you point out, the feature seems very contained within the blade and does not stick our any as on other examples i have seen. But also, in the other examples i know the Kembang Kacang area also has other raised features such as Lambe Gajah. Those features seem absent in your example, leading me to believe this to be an afterthought alteration.
Here is another example i have, an even rarer luk version that was names as Kebo Giri Luk Telu. Not the additional features around the Kembang Kacang, both Jalen and Lambe Gajah.
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