MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS 1: MARQUESAS

VANDOO · 7th February 2013, 06:39 PM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM DICEMAN

ITS GREAT TO HAVE A NEW MEMBER WITH AN APPRECIATION AND KNOWLEGE OF THESE CLUBS AND OTHER FORMS OF OCEANIC ART. BEAUTIFUL WORK ON THE PADDLE AND OTHER ITEMS IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF PRACTICE TO AQUIRE THE SKILL TO MAKE THEM. I HAVE DONE SOME WOOD CARVING SO CAN APPRECIATE THE SKILL, DIFFICULTY AND TIME INVOLVED IN MAKEING SUCH CARVINGS.
I HAVE NEVER VISITED THE MARQUESAS BUT EVIDENTLY THEY ARE STILL CARVING THE CLUBS AND SOMETIMES THE PADDLES AND OTHER ITEMS.
I SAW A PADDLE AND SOME LARGE BOWLS ON DISPLAY IN TAHITI AT A ONCE A YEAR ART AND CRAFT FAIR FROM THE SURROUNDING ISLANDS. THATS BEEN YEARS AGO BUT DURING THE FAIR IS A GOOD TIME TO BE IN TAHITI AS THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND MORE COOL THINGS TO BUY. THERE IS NO BAD TIME TO BE IN TAHITI UNLESS IT IS DURING A TYPHOON

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF YOUR WORK AND THIS TOPIC IS A GOOD PLACE FOR IT AS FUTURE REFERENCE.

OR START A NEW POST FOR OTHER FORMS IF YOU WISH.

HERE ARE TWO MORE PICTURES OF A RECENT MARQUESAS ART CLUB. AND THREE GOOD CLOSEUP DETAIL ON A GOOD OLD ORIGINAL CLUB

Diceman · 7th February 2013, 11:35 PM

More of my carvings. The way the pics work on here its hard to name them individually? so here goes.

Diceman · 7th February 2013, 11:40 PM

More.

Diceman · 7th February 2013, 11:43 PM

And More.

Diceman · 7th February 2013, 11:56 PM

More.

VANDOO · 27th February 2013, 01:48 AM

HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE PICTURES ONE OF A GOOD OLD UU CLUB AND ONE OF TWO OLD STILTS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN CARVING? I HAVE A FEW OF THE OLD WOOD CLUBS AND TIKIS FROM THE 1950'S TO 1960'S TIKI CRAZE . THERE WAS A LOT OF DEMAND IN THOSE DAYS FOR GOOD TIKI DECOUR . NICE QUALITY WORK ON YOUR ITEMS

VANDOO · 28th September 2013, 07:58 PM

A FEW MORE PICTURES FIRST PICTURE CLUB COLLECTED 1820 THE OTHER TWO OF A 55 INCHES LONG CLUB WITH WRAPED GRIP WITH HUMAN HAIR. BOTH IN THE COLLECTIONS OF THE PEABODY MUSEUM.

Battara · 2nd October 2013, 04:10 AM

W W!

Insanely great workmanship!

I have always loved these pieces, but alas can never afford them.

VANDOO · 3rd October 2013, 04:22 AM

THE GOOD OLD PRE CONTACT CLUBS ARE NOT AVAILABLE AND IF THE ODD ONE POPS UP THE PRICES ARE WAY OUT OF THE RANGE OF MOST OF US POOR MORTALS. DUE TO THE EXOTIC BEAUTY OF THE CARVINGS THEY HAVE REMAINED POPULAR AND VARIOUS ARTISTS HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE THEM TO SUPPLY THE DEMAND. IT HAS BEEN FUN AND AN UNEXPECTED BONUS TO GET TO SEE SOME OF THE MODERN WORK HERE IN THESE POSTS.
THE GOOD MODERN CARVINGS ARE NOT CHEAP BUT CAN BE AFORDABLE TO MOST OF US SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A EXAMPLE OF THE FORMS AND ART AT LEAST. SOME OF THE MODERN EXAMPLES IN THESE POSTS HAVE CROSSED OVER INTO FIJI AND OTHER ISLANDS BESIDES THE MARQUESAS BUT WITH THE OTHER POSTS AVAILABLE EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SORT THEM OUT.

VANDOO · 4th October 2013, 07:49 PM

THE WHALE BOOM STARTED AROUND SAMOA IN 1820 TO 1860. THE WHALEING FLEETS WERE THE BIGGEST FROM 1845 TO 1855 BUT THE HIGHT OF THE BOOM WAS 1832 TO 1839.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE TUFTS OF HAIR ON THE GRIP OF SOME CLUBS WAS FROM ANCESTORS AND THERE FOR SPIRITUAL HELP AND PROTECTION IN BATTLE. ANCESTORS WERE VERY IMPORTANT AND THE AMOUNT OF MANA A OLD WARRIOR OR CHIEF WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT BUT I FOUND NO CONFIRMATION OF HAIR OR OTHER THINGS BEING USED ON WEAPONS.
I DID FIND IN PORTERS WRITINGS THIS ( WHEN A CHIEF WENT TO VISIT ANOTHER TRIBE THE CANOE WAS PROFUSELY DECORATED. ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGEOUS DECORATIONS WAS LOCKS OF HUMAN HAIR INTERMIXED WITH BUNCHES OF GREY BEARD HAIR. BUNCHES OF GREY BEARD HAIR ARE ORNAMENTS HELD IN THE GREATEST ESTIMATION AMONG THEM.) SO PERHAPS THE GREY HAIR ON THE GRIP OF THE LAST EXAMPLE IS PARTIALY EXPLAINED. NOT BY THE HAIR OF MY CHINNY CHIN CHIN

7th February 2013, 06:39 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME TO THE FORUM DICEMAN ITS GREAT TO HAVE A NEW MEMBER WITH AN APPRECIATION AND KNOWLEGE OF THESE CLUBS AND OTHER FORMS OF OCEANIC ART. BEAUTIFUL WORK ON THE PADDLE AND OTHER ITEMS IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF PRACTICE TO AQUIRE THE SKILL TO MAKE THEM. I HAVE DONE SOME WOOD CARVING SO CAN APPRECIATE THE SKILL, DIFFICULTY AND TIME INVOLVED IN MAKEING SUCH CARVINGS. I HAVE NEVER VISITED THE MARQUESAS BUT EVIDENTLY THEY ARE STILL CARVING THE CLUBS AND SOMETIMES THE PADDLES AND OTHER ITEMS. I SAW A PADDLE AND SOME LARGE BOWLS ON DISPLAY IN TAHITI AT A ONCE A YEAR ART AND CRAFT FAIR FROM THE SURROUNDING ISLANDS. THATS BEEN YEARS AGO BUT DURING THE FAIR IS A GOOD TIME TO BE IN TAHITI AS THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND MORE COOL THINGS TO BUY. THERE IS NO BAD TIME TO BE IN TAHITI UNLESS IT IS DURING A TYPHOON I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF YOUR WORK AND THIS TOPIC IS A GOOD PLACE FOR IT AS FUTURE REFERENCE. OR START A NEW POST FOR OTHER FORMS IF YOU WISH. HERE ARE TWO MORE PICTURES OF A RECENT MARQUESAS ART CLUB. AND THREE GOOD CLOSEUP DETAIL ON A GOOD OLD ORIGINAL CLUB Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 8th February 2013 at 12:54 AM.

7th February 2013, 11:35 PM	#2
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	More of my carvings. The way the pics work on here its hard to name them individually? so here goes. Attached Images

7th February 2013, 11:40 PM	#3
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	More. Attached Images

7th February 2013, 11:43 PM	#4
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	And More. Attached Images

7th February 2013, 11:56 PM	#5
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	More. Attached Images

27th February 2013, 01:48 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE PICTURES ONE OF A GOOD OLD UU CLUB AND ONE OF TWO OLD STILTS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN CARVING? I HAVE A FEW OF THE OLD WOOD CLUBS AND TIKIS FROM THE 1950'S TO 1960'S TIKI CRAZE . THERE WAS A LOT OF DEMAND IN THOSE DAYS FOR GOOD TIKI DECOUR . NICE QUALITY WORK ON YOUR ITEMS Attached Images

28th September 2013, 07:58 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE PICTURES FIRST PICTURE CLUB COLLECTED 1820 THE OTHER TWO OF A 55 INCHES LONG CLUB WITH WRAPED GRIP WITH HUMAN HAIR. BOTH IN THE COLLECTIONS OF THE PEABODY MUSEUM. Attached Images

2nd October 2013, 04:10 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	W W! Insanely great workmanship! I have always loved these pieces, but alas can never afford them.

3rd October 2013, 04:22 AM	#9
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE GOOD OLD PRE CONTACT CLUBS ARE NOT AVAILABLE AND IF THE ODD ONE POPS UP THE PRICES ARE WAY OUT OF THE RANGE OF MOST OF US POOR MORTALS. DUE TO THE EXOTIC BEAUTY OF THE CARVINGS THEY HAVE REMAINED POPULAR AND VARIOUS ARTISTS HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE THEM TO SUPPLY THE DEMAND. IT HAS BEEN FUN AND AN UNEXPECTED BONUS TO GET TO SEE SOME OF THE MODERN WORK HERE IN THESE POSTS. THE GOOD MODERN CARVINGS ARE NOT CHEAP BUT CAN BE AFORDABLE TO MOST OF US SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A EXAMPLE OF THE FORMS AND ART AT LEAST. SOME OF THE MODERN EXAMPLES IN THESE POSTS HAVE CROSSED OVER INTO FIJI AND OTHER ISLANDS BESIDES THE MARQUESAS BUT WITH THE OTHER POSTS AVAILABLE EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SORT THEM OUT.

4th October 2013, 07:49 PM	#10
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE WHALE BOOM STARTED AROUND SAMOA IN 1820 TO 1860. THE WHALEING FLEETS WERE THE BIGGEST FROM 1845 TO 1855 BUT THE HIGHT OF THE BOOM WAS 1832 TO 1839. I WAS WONDERING IF THE TUFTS OF HAIR ON THE GRIP OF SOME CLUBS WAS FROM ANCESTORS AND THERE FOR SPIRITUAL HELP AND PROTECTION IN BATTLE. ANCESTORS WERE VERY IMPORTANT AND THE AMOUNT OF MANA A OLD WARRIOR OR CHIEF WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT BUT I FOUND NO CONFIRMATION OF HAIR OR OTHER THINGS BEING USED ON WEAPONS. I DID FIND IN PORTERS WRITINGS THIS ( WHEN A CHIEF WENT TO VISIT ANOTHER TRIBE THE CANOE WAS PROFUSELY DECORATED. ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGEOUS DECORATIONS WAS LOCKS OF HUMAN HAIR INTERMIXED WITH BUNCHES OF GREY BEARD HAIR. BUNCHES OF GREY BEARD HAIR ARE ORNAMENTS HELD IN THE GREATEST ESTIMATION AMONG THEM.) SO PERHAPS THE GREY HAIR ON THE GRIP OF THE LAST EXAMPLE IS PARTIALY EXPLAINED. NOT BY THE HAIR OF MY CHINNY CHIN CHIN

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