Jambiya style knife

Henk · 27th September 2005, 08:33 PM

Michael,

I don't have any other reference pictures. Sorry! And for Kai, it was just my first thought at the first picture together with Freddy's remark that it was brought in with a keris. So that was my throw for a beladau. It has a bit the look of a jambiya like dagger and varying forms are not uncommon. Besides that I have seen other surprising hiltforms from the archipello.

The last picture of the hilt however looks like those african decorations we often see.
But I think Tim or the other Africa experts are able to judge that better.

VVV · 27th September 2005, 09:25 PM

Henk,

I fully agree that variations are quite common and my question for reference pictures was only out of curiosity to learn something new.

Michael

Henk · 28th September 2005, 04:34 PM

Michael,

I wished I could show you some pics. But unfortunately.......

Jens Nordlunde · 28th September 2005, 05:09 PM

I don’t know from where it comes, but let me add another area – South India. I his book Hindu Arms and Ritual, Robert Elgood shows stone sculptures, where the hilts could look like the one shown here.

Freddy · 29th September 2005, 10:45 AM

Good remark, Jens

Tim said East Africa, so an Indian influence is also possible.

I looked at some of my knives and I found other 'jambiya-type' pieces. All from Africa, but from different regions.

The top one is the one we are discussing.

The second from the top is probably from the Sudan.

Then the one with red leather sheath comes from Mali.

The bottom one probably originates in North Africa.

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27th September 2005, 08:33 PM	#1
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Michael, I don't have any other reference pictures. Sorry! And for Kai, it was just my first thought at the first picture together with Freddy's remark that it was brought in with a keris. So that was my throw for a beladau. It has a bit the look of a jambiya like dagger and varying forms are not uncommon. Besides that I have seen other surprising hiltforms from the archipello. The last picture of the hilt however looks like those african decorations we often see. But I think Tim or the other Africa experts are able to judge that better.

27th September 2005, 09:25 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Henk, I fully agree that variations are quite common and my question for reference pictures was only out of curiosity to learn something new. Michael

28th September 2005, 04:34 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Michael, I wished I could show you some pics. But unfortunately.......

28th September 2005, 05:09 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I don’t know from where it comes, but let me add another area – South India. I his book Hindu Arms and Ritual, Robert Elgood shows stone sculptures, where the hilts could look like the one shown here.

29th September 2005, 10:45 AM	#5
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Good remark, Jens Tim said East Africa, so an Indian influence is also possible. I looked at some of my knives and I found other 'jambiya-type' pieces. All from Africa, but from different regions. The top one is the one we are discussing. The second from the top is probably from the Sudan. Then the one with red leather sheath comes from Mali. The bottom one probably originates in North Africa.