African spear for ID

[Iain]

Originally Posted by colin henshaw

Thanks Iain,

I can't be of much help on this one unfortunately - and can only offer a few observations :-

Those engraved decorations and angled ridging are quite common on knives and spears from the Congo area, as is the strip copper wrap and the use of brass upholstery tacks.

However the cross-piece element is atypical, as is the pronounced narrow mid-rib. In fact, the whole profile of the blade, reminds me of European polearms/halberds...

Its a very long shot, and most likely not the case here, but I have once seen a Congo knife made in the form of a mediaeval European dagger. Probably a commission by a Belgian colonial to a native blacksmith. But I mention this just in passing.

Hopefully another forumite can give a clearer attribution to the spear.

Regards,
Colin

Hi Colin,

Many thanks for the comments. I'm just starting in on Congo items so its all a bit new to me.

I seem to recall also seeing copies of Portuguese swords from the Congo coast. As you say, this could be a case of a native copy of a European polearm.

The blade shape puzzled me as well. The midrib isn't a feature I recall seeing in Congo spears really, and looks more like something from Sudan or the Sahel (although I'm sure it isn't in this case).

Hopefully other forumites who collect in these areas will be able to shed some light on it.

[VANDOO]

IT REMINDS ME A LITTLE OF ABSYNIAN SPEARS (ETHIOPIA) BUT JUST A GUESS AS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING JUST LIKE IT. A NICE SPEAR REGARDLESS.

[Iain]

Originally Posted by VANDOO

IT REMINDS ME A LITTLE OF ABSYNIAN SPEARS (ETHIOPIA) BUT JUST A GUESS AS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING JUST LIKE IT. A NICE SPEAR REGARDLESS.

Thanks Barry for the comments. I've had Dinka as a suggestion for similarities as well.

Returning to the Congo idea... Where some groups in much trade contact with outside groups (beyond the European activities in the western part of the region)? Or where they fairly isolated societies?

[colin henshaw]

Originally Posted by Iain

Thanks Barry for the comments. I've had Dinka as a suggestion for similarities as well.

Returning to the Congo idea... Where some groups in much trade contact with outside groups (beyond the European activities in the western part of the region)? Or where they fairly isolated societies?

Regarding trade contact in the Congo area (apart from European colonial activity) - I'm a bit hazy, but certainly there was some Arab/Swahili penetration from the East in the mid-late 19th century. I think traditional weapons were made in the Congo up to the 1950s at least ? - I have seen a Congo sword with a date engraved from that time. But our Belgian forumites should be able to advise much better on this.

Regards.

[Iain]

Originally Posted by colin henshaw

Regarding trade contact in the Congo area (apart from European colonial activity) - I'm a bit hazy, but certainly there was some Arab/Swahili penetration from the East in the mid-late 19th century. I think traditional weapons were made in the Congo up to the 1950s at least ? - I have seen a Congo sword with a date engraved from that time. But our Belgian forumites should be able to advise much better on this.

Regards.

Hi Colin, that's more or less my understanding as well. But I have to admit I know very little in this area and the Congo is still somewhat of a giant monolithic spot on the map in my mind - but I'm hoping that changes and others will chime in.

I thought there were quite a few Congo collectors on the forum, hopefully they'll see this thread at some point.