Philippine Insurrection Era Kriss ...or later??

[David]

Originally Posted by Bangkaya

The orientation on how a kris or kalis is worn (whether "tachi" or "katana" style) is dependent on the owner, but more importantly the style of silat he practices...not which side of the scabbard is fancier.

And which style uses the orientation i provided in these images? Personally i prefer this draw as it brings the blade out of the scabbard in a manner that positions it for a strong downward cut.

[Bangkaya]

David,
Sorry I can't be specific since most of the silat systems within Bangsamoro are family sytems with no specific names and just referred to as just "silat" and most often is not taught outside the clan. There are as many different silat systems within the Bangsamoro arts as there are different forms of eskrima, arnis, or kali within the Filipino martial arts (FMA.) Though FMA has more exposure worldwide and many different systems are quite known and taught worldwide, the silat arts of Bangsamoro are not as well known because it is rarely if ever taught to outsiders of the clan.

I suggest we get back to the subject of this thread before it digresses to silat thread which I wish to avoid.

Regards,
Bangkaya

[David]

Originally Posted by Bangkaya

I suggest we get back to the subject of this thread before it digresses to silat thread which I wish to avoid.

I don't see much danger of that Bangkaya...still, how these swords were wielded, including various methods of the draw seem very much in the scope of the subject. I believe we can discuss this without losing sight of the weapon at hand. Actually naming the Silat style is not that important. Just thought you might know since it was you who brought up these stylistic differences to begin with and you have told us that you practice both eskrima and silat.

[Rick]

I've been thinking about that scabbard and went back to a book I have; Warren's The Sulu Zone .
In the later deacdes of the 19th century the Sultanate of Sulu had a population of roughly 200,000 souls .
Many of these people were taken from the northern islands by raiding parties .
The Sultanate needed manpower for tripang, pearl and shell gathering .
Many of these captive workers assimilated into Sulu society over time .

I don't think it would be too much of a stretch for this scabbard to be contemporary to those times .