African Brass dagger/Subsaharan

zalmoxis · 18th September 2005, 06:49 PM

I will not use chain mail.

If chain mail bad. But should I use only mail?
Guys dou you know this:
http://www.artmetal.com/project/Features/Africa/

Tim Simmons · 18th September 2005, 06:54 PM

Ahriman, I do not like to appear boastful, here is some of the work I get involved in. Silver gilt and hot enamel. Tim

zalmoxis · 18th September 2005, 07:32 PM

Very nice.

Ahriman · 18th September 2005, 07:44 PM

Of course, mail means mesh of chains, so it's correct.

Tim: extremely nice work! Unfortunatuly I didn't even had the chance to try making something this beautiful...

for myself, it'd be a waste, as I'd beat it to pieces, for others... in a country where 100$ for a hot-peened longsword is " too expensive"...

I get less than 1000$ for a gothic vollharnisch... but they want it to be as good as W.H. III's stuff...*

What kind of blade is it? I mean, sharp or not, spring or stainless, hammered or ground, etc?
BTW, could you tell me how did you make the pommel? It very nice, but I nearly can't beleive that someone could hammer out such beauty... And I love learning new things...
*(sorry for this, I'm just always angry because this. I can't even try making art-like pieces, as no-one would buy it here. This is kind of frustrating.)

zalmoxis · 18th September 2005, 07:47 PM

You sound like you are from my counrty

Tim Simmons · 18th September 2005, 08:05 PM

I was only one of many hands that went into making this. I made the handle, not just the head , the enamel pieces were added to it. Swords and knives do not land on my work bench that often. This is only the second in too many years I care to remember. It does have an edge but is not sharp nobody is going to use it. I will email you in the week for further discussion. Tim

Ahriman · 19th September 2005, 06:30 AM

zalmoxis: nah, I'm in a post-soviet country called Hungary...

Where everyone who has more money than the average are hated more than killers. And it's not a joke that much.

Tim: Thank you very much! But why don't you make more? I mean, it's art, it seems like there somebody can afford it, I don't think you hate making such pieces...?

And back to on-topic

: I had a question regarding thickness in your brass dagger. Isn't 4.5mm too thin? My sparring daggers are usually a bit thicker, but they are heat-treated spring steel, and even then, they used to break sometimes, even as we don't use edge-to-edge parrying. So 4.5mm seems strange to me. Is it because it's expensible? That would seem strange, as making new blades, or reforging used ones after one or two battles is quite insane in a fuel-rich area like that.

Or am I wrong, and this would last long? But then, how?

18th September 2005, 06:54 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Ahriman, I do not like to appear boastful, here is some of the work I get involved in. Silver gilt and hot enamel. Tim Last edited by Tim Simmons; 18th September 2005 at 10:19 PM.

18th September 2005, 08:05 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	I was only one of many hands that went into making this. I made the handle, not just the head , the enamel pieces were added to it. Swords and knives do not land on my work bench that often. This is only the second in too many years I care to remember. It does have an edge but is not sharp nobody is going to use it. I will email you in the week for further discussion. Tim Last edited by Tim Simmons; 18th September 2005 at 08:08 PM. Reason: SPELLING!!!Spelling SpellingSpellingSpelling

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18th September 2005, 06:49 PM	#1
zalmoxis Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA USA Posts: 76	I will not use chain mail. If chain mail bad. But should I use only mail? Guys dou you know this: http://www.artmetal.com/project/Features/Africa/

18th September 2005, 07:32 PM	#3
zalmoxis Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA USA Posts: 76	Very nice.

18th September 2005, 07:44 PM	#4
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	Of course, mail means mesh of chains, so it's correct. Tim: extremely nice work! Unfortunatuly I didn't even had the chance to try making something this beautiful... for myself, it'd be a waste, as I'd beat it to pieces, for others... in a country where 100$ for a hot-peened longsword is " too expensive"... I get less than 1000$ for a gothic vollharnisch... but they want it to be as good as W.H. III's stuff...* What kind of blade is it? I mean, sharp or not, spring or stainless, hammered or ground, etc? BTW, could you tell me how did you make the pommel? It very nice, but I nearly can't beleive that someone could hammer out such beauty... And I love learning new things... *(sorry for this, I'm just always angry because this. I can't even try making art-like pieces, as no-one would buy it here. This is kind of frustrating.)

18th September 2005, 07:47 PM	#5
zalmoxis Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA USA Posts: 76	You sound like you are from my counrty

19th September 2005, 06:30 AM	#7
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	zalmoxis: nah, I'm in a post-soviet country called Hungary... Where everyone who has more money than the average are hated more than killers. And it's not a joke that much. Tim: Thank you very much! But why don't you make more? I mean, it's art, it seems like there somebody can afford it, I don't think you hate making such pieces...? And back to on-topic : I had a question regarding thickness in your brass dagger. Isn't 4.5mm too thin? My sparring daggers are usually a bit thicker, but they are heat-treated spring steel, and even then, they used to break sometimes, even as we don't use edge-to-edge parrying. So 4.5mm seems strange to me. Is it because it's expensible? That would seem strange, as making new blades, or reforging used ones after one or two battles is quite insane in a fuel-rich area like that. Or am I wrong, and this would last long? But then, how?