Unusual Visayan features?

Spunjer · 16th September 2012, 11:56 AM

ok, photobucket is back in session, lol.
notice the twine at the base of the handle. i believe it's similar to the type used on yours. notice also, on another visayan handle: similar type of twine, i think...

VVV · 16th September 2012, 01:23 PM

Thanks Robert,
I am not yet sure what the green items on the scabbard are. I will check closer when I am back home again.

Nice references, Ron.
Do you see any traces of that your resembling sword also had twine all the way along the handle like mine?
What is the guard on your second one made off?

Michael

Gavin Nugent · 16th September 2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

What is the guard on your second one made off?

Michael

Looks like a piece of antler.

VVV · 16th September 2012, 06:03 PM

Back home again.
My guess is that the green stuff is from some kind of a beetle.

Michael

kai · 16th September 2012, 10:45 PM

Congrats, Michael & Ron: Very nice examples!

Without having had a chance to handle these, my first guess would be that the (laquered?/shellac?) twine on Michael's hilt got added to keep the developing crack from becoming larger (for an original design idea it distracts too much from the nice carving IMHO) while the twine at the base of Ron's hilt may just help to keep the guard from wiggling...

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My guess is that the green stuff is from some kind of a beetle.

That looks more like a late, non-traditional addition to me. Is there any precedence for the use of beetle wings in Visayan culture?

Regards,
Kai

Spunjer · 17th September 2012, 12:29 AM

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Do you see any traces of that your resembling sword also had twine all the way along the handle like mine?

no trace on the handle itself, but as far as the twine between the handguard and handle, i believe kai hit it right on the head. pics enclosed are close ups of the twine. notice how it was wrapped around haphazardly (pics included).

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What is the guard on your second one made off?

i haven't figured out what it is yet. i keep thinking it's ivory, but freebooter might be right, in that it's a piece of antler.

Spunjer · 17th September 2012, 12:32 AM

you know, the handle on your piece reminds me so much of how some barung handles were wrapped in a similar fashion...

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Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ok, photobucket is back in session, lol. notice the twine at the base of the handle. i believe it's similar to the type used on yours. notice also, on another visayan handle: similar type of twine, i think... Attached Images

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16th September 2012, 01:23 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Robert, I am not yet sure what the green items on the scabbard are. I will check closer when I am back home again. Nice references, Ron. Do you see any traces of that your resembling sword also had twine all the way along the handle like mine? What is the guard on your second one made off? Michael

16th September 2012, 06:03 PM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Back home again. My guess is that the green stuff is from some kind of a beetle. Michael