Phil. items in London, Paris, & Berlin museums?

Dom · 13th August 2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

Lorenz, I forgot to mention...

Inform the Musée du quai Branly that you are a collector from the Philippines. That might get their attention as those guys have been scouting for specimens to borrow from collectors based in the Philippines (for an exhibit they are preparing).

Thanks Nonoy

I am working on ...

today, I came into contact with them, and I'll help Lorenz as far as I may

in the meantime,
here's a link to enter virtually in the collections "Filipino" of "Quai Branly" museum
http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/resultats.aspx?b=1&t=2
sorry, if the page is in French ...

I saw, that we've in display, the integrability of the collection included for items from Philippines,
and more specially, the items who are not exhibited
all the best

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Dom

migueldiaz · 13th August 2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom

Thanks Nonoy

I am working on ...

today, I came into contact with them, and I'll help Lorenz as far as I may

Many thanks, Dom. And I just PM'd you our letter-request to the museum, and the attachment of the email which is written in French and signed by the Sorbonne alumnus. Appreciate very much your kind assistance!

Lorenz

Lee · 14th August 2012, 04:43 PM

While in London, I'd be sure to check out the British Museum; as I recall they have a few Filipino things on display here and there. And I'll second the suggestion of a day trip over to Oxford for the Pitt Rivers Museum. There are also a few items displayed at the Royal Armouries if you have the time for a day trip to Leeds.

Nonoy Tan · 14th August 2012, 05:40 PM

Hi Lorenz,

While at the British Museum, you might be interested in finding out what other stuff (aside from rare books and documents) the British took from the Philippines when they ransacked Manila during the 1760s. As far as I know, there is no documentation or inventory of these items. I would not be surprised if they also took some art works and pieces of expensive weaponry.

Tim Simmons · 14th August 2012, 06:24 PM

While you are in town, not that far from the British Museum- walking distance {to me anyway} is the Wallace Collection. Just off Oxford Street at C&A. Knights in armour and a large Asian collection. I do not remember Phil stuff. India and Persia were more of interest to the British gentry.

migueldiaz · 14th August 2012, 11:46 PM

Lee, Tim, Nonoy, great!

Many thanks!!

Dom · 16th August 2012, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

in the meantime,
here's a link to enter virtually in the collections "Filipino" of "Quai Branly" museum
http://www.quaibranly.fr/cc/pod/resultats.aspx?b=1&t=2
sorry, if the page is in French ...

I saw, that we've in display, the integrability of the collection included for items from Philippines,
and more specially, the items who are not exhibited

sorry to everybody,
I just realized that I gave a link who is not good
in fact, it is not transferable, so for Lorenz, I have prepared a tutorial
Here it is, for those are interested
thanks for your understanding

to reach the "Quai Branly" collections by internet (not easy ..) I found the pathway
(English version doesn't play) here a tutorial
in the menu of the presentation page, http://www.quaibranly.fr/ ... click on
=> BASE DE DONNÉES then from the scrolling menu, click
=> LE CATALOGUE DES OBJETS, choose "SIMPLE"
at right, the chapter "LE CATALOGUE DES OBJETS" is open,
choose, in; "SÉLECTIONNER UN GROUPE D'OBJETS"
=> COLLECTION DES OBJETS,
then, a little bit down,
=> SÉLECTIONNER UN CRITÈRE DE RECHERCHE, from there
you leave as it is; TOUS LES CRITÈRES DE RECHERCHES, then, the next at right you enter in FRENCH language (stupid site doesn't understand english request)
=> ASIE
and click on "LANCER LA RECHERCHE"
a new page open's, and you have a choise, with several continents mentionned, included
- Asie(71103) ... items
- Océanie(92) ... items
after have clicked on "Asie", you will open an other sub-chapter
- Asie centrale(505)
- Asie orientale(12309)
- Asie méridionale(19393)
- Asie du sud-est(28941)
- Asie occidentale(5366)
- Géographie physique et culturelle(3632)
- Asie septentrionale(1980)

I very, very disappointed, because I know Lorenz received a negative response from museum to gain access to reserves
- request receives too late
- holidays of the museum staff
has been the main arguments

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Dom

Nonoy Tan · 16th August 2012, 05:37 PM

Thanks, Dom. You are selfless.

Do let me and Lorenz know if you will be visiting the Philippines, so we can bring you around.

Nonoy

Dom · 16th August 2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonoy Tan

Thanks, Dom. You are selfless.

Do let me and Lorenz know if you will be visiting the Philippines, so we can bring you around.

Nonoy

Thanks a lot Nonoy

in my live, I have found, some selfless persons on my way, who have help me at that time
now, I'm just doing, to return the favor (send back the "lift", as said in French

)

no forecasting yet ... to visit your beautiful country, only God knows what tomorrow will be
at the opportune time, I'll let you know, my Friends, and thanks for offer me an hand up.

best regards

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Dom

VANDOO · 17th August 2012, 05:18 AM

IN PARIS THERE IS AN ( AFRICAN AND OCEANIC MUSEUM) IT HAS QUITE A FEW WEAPONS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF PHILIPPINE WEAPONS ARE INCLUDED BUT THEY OFTEN ARE INCLUDED IN OCEANIC ITEMS. THE MUSEUM IS A BIT OFF THE TOURIST TRAILS BUT IS A NICE ONE.
YOU MENTIONED AMSTERDAM. OUTSIDE OF AMESTERDAN ON THE WAY TO GERMANY IS THE KROLLER MUELLER MUSEUM IT HAS AN ART MUSEM AS WELL AS A SEPARATE ARMS MUSEUM NOT SURE IF ANY PHILIPPINE ITEMS ARE ON HAND BUT THE COLLECTIONS ARE FIRST RATE.
HAVE A GOOD TRIP AND GOOD LUCK ON GAINING ACCESS TO WHAT YOU SEEK.

NEAR STRATFORD UPON THE AVON, ENGLAND IS WARWIK AND WARWIK CASTLE IT IS SORT OF A MUSEUM WITH LOTS OF WEAPONS, NO PHILIPPINE ITEMS BUT A COOL PLACE WITH A VERY CREEPY DUNGEON AS WELL AS TOWER WITH ITS OWN GHOST. THERE SHOULD BE SOME PICTURES OF THE CASTLE IN OLD FORUM POSTS.

migueldiaz · 17th August 2012, 11:14 AM

Dom, you are indeed super. Bless your heart!

Nonoy, yes it will be a pleasure and a great privilege to welcome Dom to our shores. Hope he drops by soon.

Barry, sir thanks very much for those tips! Will surely look for those places. But I think nothing will beat the 'Vandoo Museum' in which I had the rare privilege of seeing earlier

Dom · 17th August 2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

IN PARIS THERE IS AN ( AFRICAN AND OCEANIC MUSEUM) IT HAS QUITE A FEW WEAPONS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF PHILIPPINE WEAPONS ARE INCLUDED BUT THEY OFTEN ARE INCLUDED IN OCEANIC ITEMS. THE MUSEUM IS A BIT OFF THE TOURIST TRAILS BUT IS A NICE ONE.

Good day VANDOO
you'll have to put up to date your informations, my Dear friend

since 2004, the Quai Branly Museum's collections, brings together the old ethnological collections of the museums;
- "Musée de l’Homme"
and those of
- Musée National des arts d’Afrique et d’Océanie.

The transfert of ethnographic collections to "Musée du Quai Branly" have been ended on September 30, 2004

long time you didn't visit Paris, you have to come back

regards

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Dom

VANDOO · 17th August 2012, 04:08 PM

TOO TRUE ITS BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I SPENT SOME TIME IN PARIS. I HAVE TRANSITED THRU A FEW TIMES SINCE MY LAST STAY BUT DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO STOP OFF. ITS GOOD TO KNOW THEY HAVE UPDATED AND CONSOLIDATED THOSE MUSEUMS. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE I WOULD HAVE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THE MUSEUM UNDER ITS OLD NAME.
I HOPE THEY NEVER UPDATE THEIR NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM WITH ALL THE DINOSAURS AND FOSSILS I LIKE THE OLD STYLE MUSEUMS WITH BONES EVERWHERE VERSUS THOSE WITH JUST A FEW LARGE SPECIMINS JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER MUSEUMS HAVE. I PERSONALLY THINK MORE IS BETTER AND THAT VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE AND THAT GOES FOR MUSEUMS TOO.

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14th August 2012, 04:43 PM	#3
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 937	While in London, I'd be sure to check out the British Museum; as I recall they have a few Filipino things on display here and there. And I'll second the suggestion of a day trip over to Oxford for the Pitt Rivers Museum. There are also a few items displayed at the Royal Armouries if you have the time for a day trip to Leeds.

14th August 2012, 05:40 PM	#4
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Hi Lorenz, While at the British Museum, you might be interested in finding out what other stuff (aside from rare books and documents) the British took from the Philippines when they ransacked Manila during the 1760s. As far as I know, there is no documentation or inventory of these items. I would not be surprised if they also took some art works and pieces of expensive weaponry.

14th August 2012, 06:24 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	While you are in town, not that far from the British Museum- walking distance {to me anyway} is the Wallace Collection. Just off Oxford Street at C&A. Knights in armour and a large Asian collection. I do not remember Phil stuff. India and Persia were more of interest to the British gentry.

14th August 2012, 11:46 PM	#6
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Lee, Tim, Nonoy, great! Many thanks!!

16th August 2012, 05:37 PM	#8
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Thanks, Dom. You are selfless. Do let me and Lorenz know if you will be visiting the Philippines, so we can bring you around. Nonoy

17th August 2012, 05:18 AM	#10
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IN PARIS THERE IS AN ( AFRICAN AND OCEANIC MUSEUM) IT HAS QUITE A FEW WEAPONS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF PHILIPPINE WEAPONS ARE INCLUDED BUT THEY OFTEN ARE INCLUDED IN OCEANIC ITEMS. THE MUSEUM IS A BIT OFF THE TOURIST TRAILS BUT IS A NICE ONE. YOU MENTIONED AMSTERDAM. OUTSIDE OF AMESTERDAN ON THE WAY TO GERMANY IS THE KROLLER MUELLER MUSEUM IT HAS AN ART MUSEM AS WELL AS A SEPARATE ARMS MUSEUM NOT SURE IF ANY PHILIPPINE ITEMS ARE ON HAND BUT THE COLLECTIONS ARE FIRST RATE. HAVE A GOOD TRIP AND GOOD LUCK ON GAINING ACCESS TO WHAT YOU SEEK. NEAR STRATFORD UPON THE AVON, ENGLAND IS WARWIK AND WARWIK CASTLE IT IS SORT OF A MUSEUM WITH LOTS OF WEAPONS, NO PHILIPPINE ITEMS BUT A COOL PLACE WITH A VERY CREEPY DUNGEON AS WELL AS TOWER WITH ITS OWN GHOST. THERE SHOULD BE SOME PICTURES OF THE CASTLE IN OLD FORUM POSTS.

17th August 2012, 11:14 AM	#11
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Dom, you are indeed super. Bless your heart! Nonoy, yes it will be a pleasure and a great privilege to welcome Dom to our shores. Hope he drops by soon. Barry, sir thanks very much for those tips! Will surely look for those places. But I think nothing will beat the 'Vandoo Museum' in which I had the rare privilege of seeing earlier

17th August 2012, 04:08 PM	#13
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TOO TRUE ITS BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I SPENT SOME TIME IN PARIS. I HAVE TRANSITED THRU A FEW TIMES SINCE MY LAST STAY BUT DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO STOP OFF. ITS GOOD TO KNOW THEY HAVE UPDATED AND CONSOLIDATED THOSE MUSEUMS. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE I WOULD HAVE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THE MUSEUM UNDER ITS OLD NAME. I HOPE THEY NEVER UPDATE THEIR NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM WITH ALL THE DINOSAURS AND FOSSILS I LIKE THE OLD STYLE MUSEUMS WITH BONES EVERWHERE VERSUS THOSE WITH JUST A FEW LARGE SPECIMINS JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER MUSEUMS HAVE. I PERSONALLY THINK MORE IS BETTER AND THAT VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE AND THAT GOES FOR MUSEUMS TOO.