Shamshir dating? Part 2

[elfina]

Thank you both for your comments! I learned a lot, although I must confess I'm disappointed as I thought the sword, together with the hilt, was much older, at least 18th century. If this sword was for actual use in combat, am I correct to assume it would have been used with some sort of shield, even on horseback? It's much heavier than, say, 1788 or 1796 pattern sabers.

Here are some pictures of another shamshir I own. The blade is much thinner and lighter than the first one, more typical I guess of what one thinks of when one thinks of shamshirs.

[A.alnakkas]

I dont think the first shamshir is made with combat effeciency in mind. They all seem to have heavy blades but those with older blades can be light ofcourse.

The 2nd shamshir is really nice, but I think the thumm (pommel) is a later replacement and maybe even the hilt slabs.

[A.alnakkas]

Examples from Syria (picts taken by Saqir AlAnizi) Pay close attention to the crossguard decoration and scabbard decoration. Some are identical to the first shamshir.

[elfina]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I dont think the first shamshir is made with combat effeciency in mind. They all seem to have heavy blades but those with older blades can be light ofcourse.

The 2nd shamshir is really nice, but I think the thumm (pommel) is a later replacement and maybe even the hilt slabs.

Thank you for the comment and the pictures. Yes, the hilts do look identical to the first shamshir I posted pictures of! The pommel and the hilt slabs on the second shamshir look original to me though.