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Old 6th June 2012, 03:33 PM   #1
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Michael, is it that the Igniting Irons were kept red hot during actions ?
That being the case; no wonder ones with their original tips are rare.
Hi Rick,

As I stated formerly in another thread, igniting irons had to be kept resting in a bowl with glowing coal on a fire all the time during action - and that right next to the cannon and the powder barrels!!!

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=linstocks

Attached please find the most exact period representation known to me, from Jean Mansel's illuminated Late-Gothic manuscript La fleur des histoires, France, 1453-63, Geneva Library, Ms fr. 64, fol 196r.

I posted these scans earlier; they also depict the earliest form of an igniting iron, sharply angled and still without the reinforced bulbous head and only featuring a long, thin prick; this type was first represented in Konrad Kyeser's 1405 manuscript Bellifortis (two attachments below), and the only known surviving sample is preserved in my collection, in excavated condition but retaining a portion of its original haft (the one on top in the last attachment).

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For a comprehensive treatise on matchcord used with guns and linstocks, please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...402#post140402


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Default Modern mortars !!!

How things change, with extreme velocity, reason of nowadays modern technology .
This is a firecracker (or fireworks) used multi "mortar" case , left in a garden after a religious celebration.
Wrought iron superceeded by cardbord .

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You Portuguese guys sure have all the luck - growing mortars in the garden!

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