STRANGE kERIS BLADE

mykeris · 24th August 2005, 08:41 AM

Dear Raja Muda, I am glad to know that you are of Mendailing origin. Hopefully you are wise enough or be kind enough not to reclaim this pusaka,should it be true

origin of which is questionable afterall. Not to put the blame on other pusaka keepers, I think you should be aware that most pusakas have changed hands quite frequently ever since the olden days especially at the time of Japanese occupation in the Malay peninsular, exchange for food and clothing. Mendailing`s dialect is almost similar, at certain level, to the Negrian Minangkabaus and I surely agree that your choice of weapons would be of the same. It is quite unfortunate that your Mendailing chief did inherit a non-minangkabau weapon but perhaps owning it with special reason. Should it be true, is the keris in question logical enough to be true?

Can you pass a comment on the keris blade!

Alam Shah · 24th August 2005, 01:54 PM

In Drs Hamzuri's Keris book, there is a picture with the cutout but slightly different from the piece. The actual piece is at the Central Museum, Jakarta. The pamor is similar, too.

mykeris · 24th August 2005, 03:17 PM

Thanks Alam Shah. Great finding and your serious effort is highly appreciated. What does it say about dapur and pamor? I suppose, this kind of dapur must have existed long time ago. My strong feeling, it is Javanese.

Alam Shah · 24th August 2005, 04:08 PM

Here's the picture.

mykeris · 25th August 2005, 09:44 AM

Thanks Alam Shah for posting sample from the book. I agree, its almost the same. I could see similarity in dapur, pamor and Luk too. Unusual Luk 8 for this kind of keris. It must be a real genuine keris then

. Thanks again.

purwacarita · 25th August 2005, 03:04 PM

Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS

Alam Shah · 25th August 2005, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purwacarita

Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS

Hi,
I agree that the similarities does not mean that the first keris is genuine.

All I'm implying is that there are keris of such design. Whether the piece is genuine or not, I wouldn't know.

24th August 2005, 01:54 PM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Similar looking piece. In Drs Hamzuri's Keris book, there is a picture with the cutout but slightly different from the piece. The actual piece is at the Central Museum, Jakarta. The pamor is similar, too. Last edited by Alam Shah; 24th August 2005 at 04:12 PM. Reason: grammar...

24th August 2005, 04:08 PM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Here's the picture. Attached Images

25th August 2005, 09:44 AM	#5
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks Alam Shah for posting sample from the book. I agree, its almost the same. I could see similarity in dapur, pamor and Luk too. Unusual Luk 8 for this kind of keris. It must be a real genuine keris then . Thanks again. Last edited by mykeris; 25th August 2005 at 09:46 AM. Reason: add info

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24th August 2005, 08:41 AM	#1
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Dear Raja Muda, I am glad to know that you are of Mendailing origin. Hopefully you are wise enough or be kind enough not to reclaim this pusaka,should it be true origin of which is questionable afterall. Not to put the blame on other pusaka keepers, I think you should be aware that most pusakas have changed hands quite frequently ever since the olden days especially at the time of Japanese occupation in the Malay peninsular, exchange for food and clothing. Mendailing`s dialect is almost similar, at certain level, to the Negrian Minangkabaus and I surely agree that your choice of weapons would be of the same. It is quite unfortunate that your Mendailing chief did inherit a non-minangkabau weapon but perhaps owning it with special reason. Should it be true, is the keris in question logical enough to be true? Can you pass a comment on the keris blade!

24th August 2005, 03:17 PM	#3
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks Alam Shah. Great finding and your serious effort is highly appreciated. What does it say about dapur and pamor? I suppose, this kind of dapur must have existed long time ago. My strong feeling, it is Javanese.

25th August 2005, 03:04 PM	#6
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS