bugis keris

David · 9th March 2012, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gee1971

I was mistaken, the seller was talking about golden plated silver...

I'd say you still need to get this tested. I don't see any gold plating in your photos and it's difficult to tell if this is real silver or merely some white metal. If it tests for silver and/or gold at least that would account for a bit of the high price you paid.

Gee1971 · 12th March 2012, 01:56 PM

Hello, I receive the Keris here are some pics

Gee1971 · 13th March 2012, 01:30 AM

some pics more

Gee1971 · 24th March 2012, 04:48 PM

Hello,

I've been to a jeweller, he sand a little part the scabbard and told to me it is made of silver. He told meThe light gold coulour is due to a gold bath with local "homemade" methods. cause of the increase of silver and artwork, he said the price I paid id good, he estimates the value around 2000 euros coz of the value of silver and the artwork. H estimated it's not an antique piece but a nice copy.
the kabbalistic signs are maybe the astrological them of the first owner; the arab writings are the names of Mohamed companions.

Jean · 24th March 2012, 08:11 PM

Ouch, the silver pieces look expensive in France!

David · 25th March 2012, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee1971

he estimates the value around 2000 euros coz of the value of silver and the artwork.

Does this jeweler know anything about keris?

asomotif · 25th March 2012, 03:07 AM

The value estimated by the jeweller is probably based on western wages.
Worksmen in Indonesia are slightly cheaper.

Ps, the keris does look better than on the sellers pictures.
But the artwork is not of a high standard imho

Gee1971 · 25th March 2012, 07:42 PM

The jeweller told to me the price of silver increased a lot and even prices aren't the same in Asia, he took a calculator with the estimate weight of the sheet of silver on keris and showed me a certain value with the cost of the artwork, he explained the different gold plated methods and blade fabrications, it seems have a certain experience, he told me he is now retired and served in the french commandos in Algeria but he had a critical view about the fabrication, found a little suspect the colour at the biginning and finally, he told me I haven't loose my money.

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Gee1971 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: France Posts: 8	it's silver Hello, I've been to a jeweller, he sand a little part the scabbard and told to me it is made of silver. He told meThe light gold coulour is due to a gold bath with local "homemade" methods. cause of the increase of silver and artwork, he said the price I paid id good, he estimates the value around 2000 euros coz of the value of silver and the artwork. H estimated it's not an antique piece but a nice copy. the kabbalistic signs are maybe the astrological them of the first owner; the arab writings are the names of Mohamed companions.

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24th March 2012, 08:11 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Ouch, the silver pieces look expensive in France!

25th March 2012, 03:07 AM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,238	The value estimated by the jeweller is probably based on western wages. Worksmen in Indonesia are slightly cheaper. Ps, the keris does look better than on the sellers pictures. But the artwork is not of a high standard imho

25th March 2012, 07:42 PM	#8
Gee1971 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: France Posts: 8	The jeweller told to me the price of silver increased a lot and even prices aren't the same in Asia, he took a calculator with the estimate weight of the sheet of silver on keris and showed me a certain value with the cost of the artwork, he explained the different gold plated methods and blade fabrications, it seems have a certain experience, he told me he is now retired and served in the french commandos in Algeria but he had a critical view about the fabrication, found a little suspect the colour at the biginning and finally, he told me I haven't loose my money.