Afghan Sabre Quillon; Translate ?

[AJ1356]

could you get a close up pic please ?

[Rick]

Had to hunt through old posts to find it .
I think this is the proper orientation .
Thanks !

[AJ1356]

it is a year stamp, does it have anything on the other side?

[Rick]

Hi AJ, just a shadow of the stamp on the forte as far as I can tell .
Forte pictured:
A shadow on the reverse of the quillon shown in this link :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=Afghan+Sabre

[AJ1356]

The stamp is the government seal of mehrab and munbar (kinda like the alter area of a mosque) it is 69 years old. Made in the Jangalak factory in Kabul during the reign of Zaher Shah. I saw in the link a refference to Mazar e sharif, there was not arsenal or military factory in Mazar e sharif, just the Jangalak factory, localy knon as Kaar Khaana e Jangalak, کار خانه جنگلک you'd also see that in some Marini Henries. hope it sheds some light.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

The stamp is the government seal of mehrab and munbar (kinda like the alter area of a mosque) it is 69 years old.

Salam Aleikum ya Khouyya
that mean that the number 1321 it's not an Hegira date ?
if was a date, it's ± 109 years old
I like to understand
thanks per anticipation, if you may clarify for me, this point

à +

Dom

[AJ1356]

God lord DOM, how many times have I mentioned this? there is two types of Hijri calenders. The start date for both is the migration of the Prophet (pbuh) from Macca to Medina. First one is based on the LUNAR calender هجری قمری, what Arabs are using, each lunar year is about 10 days shorter than a solar year. That is why for example Ramazan move roughly 10 days back each year. The second is based on the SOLAR cycles هجری شمسی, same months as Zodiac calender, used by pretty much all Non-Arabs, (Persians, Afghans, Tajiks, Kurds, Armenians, Azeri, you get the idea). The Solar or Shamsi year starts on the first days of Spring, when the new solar cycle begins. In Afghanistan before the reign of Amir Amanullah they were using the Lunar calender, when he become the King they switched and went back to Solar calender which was being used in Pre-Islamic times. In our calenders right now in each day box there are 3 dates, main one for the Solar day, smaller for Lunar and another small one for Julain date. Hope this helps you out, and stops your colorfull yet useless comments, to whatever I say.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

The stamp is the government seal of mehrab and munbar (kinda like the alter area of a mosque) it is 69 years old. Made in the Jangalak factory in Kabul during the reign of Zaher Shah. I saw in the link a refference to Mazar e sharif, there was not arsenal or military factory in Mazar e sharif, just the Jangalak factory, localy knon as Kaar Khaana e Jangalak, کار خانه جنگلک you'd also see that in some Marini Henries. hope it sheds some light.

Thanks AJ, but I'm a bit confused by the answer .
Are you referring above to the stamp on the quillon, or the stamp at the forte ?

Also, thank you for exploding the Mazar I sharif story .

1943 ... hm, iinteresting .

[AJ1356]

Sorry should have clarified, the stamp on the forte. On the quilion is just the date stamp, without the date or at least not readable to me.