BLUNDERBUSS FROM YORK MAIL

Cerjak · 2nd March 2012, 03:41 PM

You was right and as usually Fernando your felling was good .
After had removed some screw now I have many evidences to confirm yours opinion that it was a XXI th Century production and you could see it with those photos .( sorry for quality but enough to see)
This afternoon I will send back to this auction company who had sold me as "royal mail Blunderbuss from the 19 th century from the city of York"
AGAIN THANK YOU !
CERJAK

fernando · 2nd March 2012, 04:57 PM

Oh, it is a great thing you can have it returned and recuperate your money

Let's have a drink to that

.

Cerjak · 2nd March 2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Oh, it is a great thing you can have it returned and recuperate your money

Let's have a drink to that

.

why not, as you know France it is the country of Champagne !!

Jim McDougall · 2nd March 2012, 08:46 PM

Cerjak, I would like to thank you very much for your gentlemanly reception of the unfortunately very accurate assessment of this gun, which has has proven to be a modern commercial product. I am glad to hear that the auction company has taken a noble stance on accepting return, however I hope they will look further into providing more accurate descriptions in their offerings.
I also thank you for sharing detailed photos of the elements of this gun, which gives us all a very good lesson on the spurious items out there and what to look for. This item has also led to a fascinating discussion, as well as a great spin off on the very important topic of the use of serifs on stamped fonts, beautifully handled by Chris and Spiral.

Gentleman, an extremely impressive turn out on this, thank you all so much. I know Ive certainly learned a lot on these fascinating blunderbuss guns!

All the very best,
Jim

Rick · 2nd March 2012, 10:41 PM

You have to wonder when the point of diminishing return is reached by forgers of pieces like this .

Where would stuff like this be manufactured ?

laEspadaAncha · 3rd March 2012, 02:47 AM

So Cerjak,

Were any parts original, or was the entire thing a forgery?

I'm glad to hear you will be able to recover the cost of your purchase from the auction house, and please include myself among the list of those grateful for your efforts to share the journey with the rest of us...

I'm gun shy (pun intended) when it comes to pulling the trigger (ditto) on antique firearms at an auction. I know for a fact I've let good money pass me by on more than one occasion in my effort to make sure I never thrown bad money after one, because if you buy a bum gun at one of the area houses, the only context under which you get to return it is if you re-consign it.

2nd March 2012, 03:41 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	This blunderbuss was a fake ! You was right and as usually Fernando your felling was good . After had removed some screw now I have many evidences to confirm yours opinion that it was a XXI th Century production and you could see it with those photos .( sorry for quality but enough to see) This afternoon I will send back to this auction company who had sold me as "royal mail Blunderbuss from the 19 th century from the city of York" AGAIN THANK YOU ! CERJAK Attached Images

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2nd March 2012, 04:57 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Oh, it is a great thing you can have it returned and recuperate your money Let's have a drink to that .

2nd March 2012, 08:46 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,486	Cerjak, I would like to thank you very much for your gentlemanly reception of the unfortunately very accurate assessment of this gun, which has has proven to be a modern commercial product. I am glad to hear that the auction company has taken a noble stance on accepting return, however I hope they will look further into providing more accurate descriptions in their offerings. I also thank you for sharing detailed photos of the elements of this gun, which gives us all a very good lesson on the spurious items out there and what to look for. This item has also led to a fascinating discussion, as well as a great spin off on the very important topic of the use of serifs on stamped fonts, beautifully handled by Chris and Spiral. Gentleman, an extremely impressive turn out on this, thank you all so much. I know Ive certainly learned a lot on these fascinating blunderbuss guns! All the very best, Jim

2nd March 2012, 10:41 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,348	You have to wonder when the point of diminishing return is reached by forgers of pieces like this . Where would stuff like this be manufactured ?

3rd March 2012, 02:47 AM	#6
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	So Cerjak, Were any parts original, or was the entire thing a forgery? I'm glad to hear you will be able to recover the cost of your purchase from the auction house, and please include myself among the list of those grateful for your efforts to share the journey with the rest of us... I'm gun shy (pun intended) when it comes to pulling the trigger (ditto) on antique firearms at an auction. I know for a fact I've let good money pass me by on more than one occasion in my effort to make sure I never thrown bad money after one, because if you buy a bum gun at one of the area houses, the only context under which you get to return it is if you re-consign it.