Whistlinbill's Collection #1: Kris

VANDOO · 1st February 2012, 07:24 PM

M9 KNOTWORK ON GRIP AND SCABBARD IN NAUTICAL STYLE NOT OLD TRIBAL FORM OF WORK. UNUSUALLY LONG METAL FERRULE SHOWING MAKES ONE WONDER IF THE ENTIRE HANDLE IS NOT COVERED IN METAL UNDER THE WRAP. NICE FILE WORK ON THE BLADE.PERHAPS NOT THE ORIGINAL HANDLE.

M10 NICE ALL ORIGINAL KRIS AND SCABBARD WITH CLOTH (ANTING ANTING)? A CLOSE UP OF THE PATTERN OF THE CLOTH MAY SHED MORE LIGHT ON ITS TRIBE AND ORIGION AS IT APPEARS TO BE TRIBAL MADE CLOTH AND PATTERN.

M11 STRIKES ME AS NON MORO LIKELY VISIAN INSURECTION PERIOD, UNUSUAL SCABBARD FORM ESPECIALLY THE TIP.

M33 RATHER CRUDE FILE WORK ON BELALAI GANJAH, UNUSUAL FORM OF WRANGKA (TOP OF SCABBARD) AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE SCABBARD TIP? MOP (MOTHER OF PEARL) ON HORSEHOOF POMMEL LIKE THAT SEEN AROUND ZAMBOANGA IN MINDANAO.

M34 GOOD PATINA TO POMMEL GOOD QUALITY SILVER FITTINGS , MISSING BACA BACA WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY INTERESTING PATTERN TO THE BLADE, OR IS IT RUST STAINS? PICTURES MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL.
I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU DIG THESE OUT, PART OF THE JOY OF COLLECTING IS HANDELING, DISPLAYING AND GIVING THESE ITEMS THE CARE THEY DESERVE. IT IS SORT OF LIKE PAINTING A OLD FADED FLAKEY HOUSE YOU CAN EASILY SEE AND APPRECIATE THE RESULTS OF YOUR WORK WHEN ITS DONE. I THINK I ENJOY RESCURING AN OLD ITEM IN NEED OF TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE)OVER BUYING A PERFECT RESTORED ITEM. THE RESULTS WHEN THE JOB IS DONE AND THE ITEM LOOKS GOOD AND CARED FOR AGAIN IS ITS OWN REWARD.

Sajen · 1st February 2012, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU DIG THESE OUT, PART OF THE JOY OF COLLECTING IS HANDELING, DISPLAYING AND GIVING THESE ITEMS THE CARE THEY DESERVE. IT IS SORT OF LIKE PAINTING A OLD FADED FLAKEY HOUSE YOU CAN EASILY SEE AND APPRECIATE THE RESULTS OF YOUR WORK WHEN ITS DONE. I THINK I ENJOY RESCURING AN OLD ITEM IN NEED OF TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE)OVER BUYING A PERFECT RESTORED ITEM. THE RESULTS WHEN THE JOB IS DONE AND THE ITEM LOOKS GOOD AND CARED FOR AGAIN IS ITS OWN REWARD.

Very well said!

Sajen · 1st February 2012, 09:40 PM

Some more explanatory notes:

M9 and M10 seems to my eyes Maranao blades. And agree with Barry that M10 that it is a very nice original kris with the anting anting cloth.

M11 isn't a kris and Barry may be correct that it is a Visayan blade. (look also this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14751)

M33 don't have a seperate gangya and is IMHO a WWII area kris with a typical sheath from this time.

M34 is IMHO a Maguindanao blade.

Regards,

Detlef

1st February 2012, 09:40 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Some more explanatory notes: M9 and M10 seems to my eyes Maranao blades. And agree with Barry that M10 that it is a very nice original kris with the anting anting cloth. M11 isn't a kris and Barry may be correct that it is a Visayan blade. (look also this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14751) M33 don't have a seperate gangya and is IMHO a WWII area kris with a typical sheath from this time. M34 is IMHO a Maguindanao blade. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 1st February 2012 at 10:22 PM.

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VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	M9 KNOTWORK ON GRIP AND SCABBARD IN NAUTICAL STYLE NOT OLD TRIBAL FORM OF WORK. UNUSUALLY LONG METAL FERRULE SHOWING MAKES ONE WONDER IF THE ENTIRE HANDLE IS NOT COVERED IN METAL UNDER THE WRAP. NICE FILE WORK ON THE BLADE.PERHAPS NOT THE ORIGINAL HANDLE. M10 NICE ALL ORIGINAL KRIS AND SCABBARD WITH CLOTH (ANTING ANTING)? A CLOSE UP OF THE PATTERN OF THE CLOTH MAY SHED MORE LIGHT ON ITS TRIBE AND ORIGION AS IT APPEARS TO BE TRIBAL MADE CLOTH AND PATTERN. M11 STRIKES ME AS NON MORO LIKELY VISIAN INSURECTION PERIOD, UNUSUAL SCABBARD FORM ESPECIALLY THE TIP. M33 RATHER CRUDE FILE WORK ON BELALAI GANJAH, UNUSUAL FORM OF WRANGKA (TOP OF SCABBARD) AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE SCABBARD TIP? MOP (MOTHER OF PEARL) ON HORSEHOOF POMMEL LIKE THAT SEEN AROUND ZAMBOANGA IN MINDANAO. M34 GOOD PATINA TO POMMEL GOOD QUALITY SILVER FITTINGS , MISSING BACA BACA WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY INTERESTING PATTERN TO THE BLADE, OR IS IT RUST STAINS? PICTURES MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL. I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU DIG THESE OUT, PART OF THE JOY OF COLLECTING IS HANDELING, DISPLAYING AND GIVING THESE ITEMS THE CARE THEY DESERVE. IT IS SORT OF LIKE PAINTING A OLD FADED FLAKEY HOUSE YOU CAN EASILY SEE AND APPRECIATE THE RESULTS OF YOUR WORK WHEN ITS DONE. I THINK I ENJOY RESCURING AN OLD ITEM IN NEED OF TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE)OVER BUYING A PERFECT RESTORED ITEM. THE RESULTS WHEN THE JOB IS DONE AND THE ITEM LOOKS GOOD AND CARED FOR AGAIN IS ITS OWN REWARD.