Celebes keris?

[PenangsangII]

the pamor garap looks like senopaten era garap (or even Majapahit). But the material looks from newer era. I am puzzled too

and ofcourse people of Nusantara move about from island to island even after WWII. Restrictions only took place around 1950s.

[Harley]

Thanks Alan, I think it's a good idea to give it a little heat, i would reckon that it makes the change of breaking less.


Thanks PenangsangII for your answer, is there anything that i could do to give you a better view, better pictures or clean the blade?

regards,
Ben

[Sajen]

Hi Ben,

when the fit is good in this sheath I would let the keris with this sheath. Only the pendokok seems to be a little bit to small in diameter.

Regards,

Detlef

[Rick]

Just thinking out loud; perhaps straightening the pesi is not a good idea if one wishes to use the same handle .

[Harley]

Hi Detlef and Rick,

I don´t think i will use this sheath now that i know the blade is Javanese, it´s a good fit, but i don´t like it, i´ll think i have to make one more sheath
I can´t give you an explanation why i don´t like to have a blade and sheath that are not from the same area, it´s just my idea.
And hopefully someday i find a Bugis blade for this sheath.
Thanks for your opinion!

regards,
Ben

[Henk]

I would leave this keris as it is.

I had the same idea as Rick, leave the pesi as it is and keep this ukiran.

The blade however might be a javanese blade. Javanese blades where highly apreciated, brought to these areas and mounted in Bugis or Celebes dress. The javanese blades where so much apreciated that blades where even forged in these areas after javanese examples

[Harley]

Hi Henk,

You guys are giving me a hard time , just kidding, i appreciate the opinions
you've given.
I know that it's something thats not unusual, but why am i trying to give the lonely blade's a sheath that would fit for the area they come from, if i didn't take notice of it with this one?
I am not in a hurry, because i,m still busy with the other sheaths, so i have time to think about it.

regards,
Ben

[Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by Henk

I would leave this keris as it is.

I had the same idea as Rick, leave the pesi as it is and keep this ukiran.

The blade however might be a javanese blade. Javanese blades where highly apreciated, brought to these areas and mounted in Bugis or Celebes dress. The javanese blades where so much apreciated that blades where even forged in these areas after javanese examples

I agree. Imo also the pesi is good . The curve of the pesi should be fully secure the bugis handle in the right position chosen by the previous owner (without to put other material around the pesi)
PS: I like a lot pamor patter of your keris