A strange weapon (tool?) with arabic marking

[AJ1356]

Now if we say it is a meat cleaver from some back wood island nation that did not have any concepts of simple Physics, then sure why not it is a meat cleaver. But so say it is a meat cleaver from a part of the world that probably invented meat cleavers (did a wiki and aparently chinese did the invention which persia traded with for 1000s of years) then that is just plain silly.

meat cleaver

[Rick]

Without more and better pictures and a better description of the piece we are going to have a hard time with identification ..

[spiral]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Now if we say it is a meat cleaver from some back wood island nation that did not have any concepts of simple Physics, then sure why not it is a meat cleaver.

I am assuming it is possible that we are seeing the tang & forged pommel at that one time had a wooden or leather handle?

As Rick stated Dimensions, description & good photos are needed.

Spiral

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Now if we say it is a meat cleaver from some back wood island nation that did not have any concepts of simple Physics, then sure why not it is a meat cleaver. But so say it is a meat cleaver from a part of the world that probably invented meat cleavers (did a wiki and aparently chinese did the invention which persia traded with for 1000s of years) then that is just plain silly.

no need for Physics or any other science. one either knows/bases an opinion on some related data, or thinks he knows ...

[Atlantia]

Wow, great catch Alex, I wouldn't have guessed.

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Now if we say it is a meat cleaver from some back wood island nation that did not have any concepts of simple Physics, then sure why not it is a meat cleaver. But so say it is a meat cleaver from a part of the world that probably invented meat cleavers (did a wiki and aparently chinese did the invention which persia traded with for 1000s of years) then that is just plain silly.

meat cleaver

Well. it is a type of meat cleaver.. not the only meat cleaver they have in this area there is quite a few different types...... in iran for example there is several styles traditionally .. some look more like a typical cleaver but with a pinned tang and very thick blade some up to 15mm thick. the modern european cleaver is are a recent product and is still mostly preferred with only northern europeans. southern europe and the balkans have several typical styles of their own. in russia and eastern central europe and central asia a meat axe is preferred, in medieval northern continental europe knives looking like a giant golok with a open front wooden sheath were standard for larger work , some with blades almost 3 feet.
then an axe used for the smaller work. not at all what is used today

[drac2k]

Meat Cleaver or not? Recently Imperial auctions sold a similar item, and called it a "Persian Cleaver,Oajar Dynasty,Characteristically carried in Muharram processions." This one appeared to be gold inlaid(not etched), and of good quality.
I now see one advertised in Fagan Arms as an "18th Century Persian Executioner's Ax;"Have any other opinions emerged since 2012 ?

[ariel]

I think that "torture tool" or "executioner's tool" might be more enticing and exciting than just a "butcher's cleaver" ( for a certain kind of creeps, at least). Brings more moola.
Several times in my e-bay career I came upon a misidentified beheading sword offered for a song. Did not even bid on it. Did not want it to enter my house even for a moment.

[drac2k]

So do you have an opinion as to the nature of this item ?

[ariel]

Sorry, were you asking me?

Just a butcher's cleaver, as was said by Alex.

[drac2k]

Thanks.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by drac2k

So do you have an opinion as to the nature of this item ?

yes it's a Persian cleaver as it was brilliantly demonstrated by Alex!