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Old 11th August 2005, 12:58 AM   #1
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Question Javanese Empu

Was this tombak made by a Jawa Empu ?
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Old 11th August 2005, 01:12 AM   #2
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Lei Shen Dao, does "reliable" mean "infalible". I have to wonder, because it doesn't seem likely to me that given the culture, a tombak would be made for a woman. I am certainly not infalible and could be wrong on this point. There are. of course, keris made for women, known as patrem, which tend to be much smaller in size and simpler in pamor and dapur, but i am doubtful about tombak specific to that gender. If so i would like to hear more.
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Old 11th August 2005, 01:50 AM   #3
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Rick, I really don't know.
The only think I know is that it is for protection of a woman. If this tombak is in a man's hands, it will never be full power (considering that the owner knows how to "handle" it). Only in the hands of a woman can have some value.
I know that is an old piece too, exept the woodwork which is totally new. Mostly of Javanese origin, but I am not sure.
That is all I know.

nechesh hi
as I told to Rick, the tuah for this works only for a woman (at least that I was told). I understand what you mean, it is very logical. But it is to my knowledge that some tombak are for women, princesses, etc.
When it was taken out of the weapon, it could be made as a talisman, so I guess that it could be for a woman too, for not be a weapon anymore.

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Old 11th August 2005, 03:17 AM   #4
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Can I request for a close-up clearer picture of the blade, Picture 2?
I know what you mean Lei. Nechesh do have a point too. An example of a patrem. Click here.
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Old 11th August 2005, 10:46 AM   #5
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Dear Alam

thanks for the interest

Unfortunately I'm leaving for vacation and I don't have a photo machine available and these are the only photos I have. At the end of the month, I'll have a friend of mine to take new photos to send you.

Thanks again

Take care
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