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and side 2, same as above...
again, cant seem to get the editor to take them in order, sorry about that. this one is in the order 6,5,4,3,2,7,1 |
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Sorry for responding late to this thread, but the reflections on the blade as well as erased parts made it quite difficult to read it. I only read one side and I am still trying to figure out the other.
To pick up where Dom left: sine-i 'adaya yarıp bu hançeri kıl nişan sahibi daim muzaffer eyle olsun alişan Let this knife be a sign on the bossom of the enemy Let its owner be glorious and high in fame Last edited by Zifir; 3rd December 2011 at 05:27 PM. |
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Wow,
that is amazing, Thank you so much. Does anyone one here have any idea of the date? is there a stylistic clue to it or something? It came from an estate with many 17th and 18th century item...so I was told. |
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Since there is still no answer from the real experts, I will try to play one
![]() The straight blade, small ears and the niello decoration are typical for the early yataghans from the 18th century. You may find similar examples in the Astvatsaturyn's book. I have also a similar one, which bears the date 1182 (1768) on the both sides. Please notice a top quality hamon (bright and having a uniform width), which you may expect from a Japanese master smith ![]() |
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Thanks for the comparison, that is very cool.
Yours look very similar to mine, but a couple steps up in quality and condition ![]() Thanks to everyone for providing such wonderful information! if anyone else has anything to add I am all ears ![]() |
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Hi,
i got an translation request also. But, well, it is no weapon but a copper pot which came with one last year ![]() I might understand that the left signs are a date, which should be around 1700. The others i couldnt identify at all. It also seams that the signs might come from two different persons. I would make a guess, that it comes from the Turk persian site ![]() Any idea is welcome. best regards Dirk |
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It seem that, you are correct ... should be Turkish, at least due to the mention it's only a name and a military title ... all are Turkish ![]() your feeling that may be, the sentence was done by two writers has a sense the last part of the name "Hussein" and, the title "Aghra" are lightly different, but the date it's absolutely strange, as some one, mixed both writing occidental, and Arabic ?? any way, here what we read SANA either DATE ... then ... 115(4?) either 1741 (?) or 155(9?) either 1745 (?) MOHAMED BOUHRERIYA ORLO GHELMEDAR HUSSEIN AGHRA those names have to receive the approbation of Zifir, but I think so that I'm not too far ![]() à + Dom |
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