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Old 20th November 2011, 11:20 PM   #1
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and side 2, same as above...
again, cant seem to get the editor to take them in order, sorry about that.
this one is in the order 6,5,4,3,2,7,1
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Old 2nd December 2011, 06:45 PM   #2
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Sorry for responding late to this thread, but the reflections on the blade as well as erased parts made it quite difficult to read it. I only read one side and I am still trying to figure out the other.

To pick up where Dom left:

sine-i 'adaya yarıp bu hançeri kıl nişan
sahibi daim muzaffer eyle olsun alişan

Let this knife be a sign on the bossom of the enemy
Let its owner be glorious and high in fame
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Old 3rd December 2011, 01:15 AM   #3
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Wow,
that is amazing, Thank you so much.

Does anyone one here have any idea of the date? is there a stylistic clue to it or something? It came from an estate with many 17th and 18th century item...so I was told.
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Old 7th December 2011, 08:29 AM   #4
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Since there is still no answer from the real experts, I will try to play one
The straight blade, small ears and the niello decoration are typical for the early yataghans from the 18th century. You may find similar examples in the Astvatsaturyn's book.
I have also a similar one, which bears the date 1182 (1768) on the both sides. Please notice a top quality hamon (bright and having a uniform width), which you may expect from a Japanese master smith
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:53 AM   #5
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Thanks for the comparison, that is very cool.
Yours look very similar to mine, but a couple steps up in quality and condition
Thanks to everyone for providing such wonderful information!
if anyone else has anything to add I am all ears
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Old 26th December 2011, 06:05 PM   #6
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Hi,

i got an translation request also.
But, well, it is no weapon but a copper pot which came with one last year .

I might understand that the left signs are a date, which should be around 1700. The others i couldnt identify at all.
It also seams that the signs might come from two different persons.

I would make a guess, that it comes from the Turk persian site

Any idea is welcome.

best regards
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Old 26th December 2011, 10:53 PM   #7
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I would make a guess, that it comes from the Turk persian site
Hi Dirk
It seem that, you are correct ... should be Turkish, at least due to the mention
it's only a name and a military title ... all are Turkish

your feeling that may be, the sentence was done by two writers has a sense
the last part of the name "Hussein" and, the title "Aghra" are lightly different,
but the date it's absolutely strange, as some one, mixed both writing occidental, and Arabic ??

any way, here what we read

SANA either DATE ... then ... 115(4?) either 1741 (?) or 155(9?) either 1745 (?)
MOHAMED BOUHRERIYA ORLO GHELMEDAR HUSSEIN AGHRA

those names have to receive the approbation of Zifir, but I think so that I'm not too far

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