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|  5th November 2011, 02:19 AM | #11 | 
| (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking 
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			Thanks a lot for you inputs, Jim, Kronckew and 'Nando,    I was sent this image about two years ago by an East German antiquarian book deealer (sedulitas) and they assured me that both the ball and chain illustrated were a half ball from a chain shot, and they were not willing to sell it. They regarded it as kind of permanent historical decorative basis for advertisimg their old mss. So that's all I can telly you, folks, sorry though I am.   Best, Michael | 
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