Extreme Skewness of Mahesa Lajer

A. G. Maisey · 30th October 2011, 05:05 AM

The sticking point here is "500 years".

That's pre-1500.

Daha fell 1527 --- or 1525 depending on what one accepts.

End of the Majapahit line.

1468 Brawijaya V converted to Islam.

End of the Kingdom of Majapahit.

The Candela, Tuca and M'leca did not carry keris. A few Sudra might have. Effectively that left the K'satriya.How many K'satriya in Majapahit?

Thus, how many keris existed in Jawa pre-1500?

The keris seems to have blossomed as an arm of the population as whole after the advent of Islam.

It is wise not to align tangguh with era.

A very great number of keris to which the Javanese keris belief system attributes considerable age are nowhere near the age that the belief system attributes to them.

Because of climate and the standard maintenance procedures followed in Jawa, combined with the original population of keris, there are in fact very few keris that can be reliably accepted as being more than 500 years old.

Very old keris which do not use a metuk have often had their gonjos replaced.

Blade angle can be used as an indicator for some tangguh classifications, but I do not know of any tangguh classification that has a blade angle as low as this keris as an indicator.

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30th October 2011, 05:05 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	The sticking point here is "500 years". That's pre-1500. Daha fell 1527 --- or 1525 depending on what one accepts. End of the Majapahit line. 1468 Brawijaya V converted to Islam. End of the Kingdom of Majapahit. The Candela, Tuca and M'leca did not carry keris. A few Sudra might have. Effectively that left the K'satriya.How many K'satriya in Majapahit? Thus, how many keris existed in Jawa pre-1500? The keris seems to have blossomed as an arm of the population as whole after the advent of Islam. It is wise not to align tangguh with era. A very great number of keris to which the Javanese keris belief system attributes considerable age are nowhere near the age that the belief system attributes to them. Because of climate and the standard maintenance procedures followed in Jawa, combined with the original population of keris, there are in fact very few keris that can be reliably accepted as being more than 500 years old. Very old keris which do not use a metuk have often had their gonjos replaced. Blade angle can be used as an indicator for some tangguh classifications, but I do not know of any tangguh classification that has a blade angle as low as this keris as an indicator.