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			Penangsang, I am having a great deal of difficulty in understanding exactly what you mean when you say:- 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	"--- the line of the blumbangan would be nicely touch the tips of the sogokan, and cross the middle of 2nd luk---" I have had not a little instruction in the layout of keris that conform to Surakarta and Mataram tangguh. My teachers in this have been Empu Suparman Supowijaya and Empu Pauzan Pusposukadgo, additionally I count amongst my close friends several working pande keris. I am unable to align anything I have ever heard from any of these people with what I think you might be saying. I have looked at several keris that are in my care which are attributed to noted makers, such as Empu Jayasukadgo, Empu Kinom, Empu Guling, and I cannot align what I see in these blades with what you have written. Could I trouble you to clarify exactly what you mean by the statement I have quoted above? Thank you.  | 
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