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Old 3rd July 2011, 09:14 PM   #1
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Detlef,

Thanks for posting these nice reference pictures.
Soemba is Sumba AFAIK. But having been there myself I am quite positive that your knife isn't made in Sumba.
To me it looks like a Siraui. It's only the hilt that is slightly non-text book. Why do you doubt it when holding it in your hands?
Mine (variation #1) is 31 cm out of sheath, also has a horn hilt and is quite heavy.

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Detlef,

Thanks for posting these nice reference pictures.
Soemba is Sumba AFAIK. But having been there myself I am quite positive that your knife isn't made in Sumba.
To me it looks like a Siraui. It's only the hilt that is slightly non-text book. Why do you doubt it when holding it in your hands?
Mine (variation #1) is 31 cm out of sheath, also has a horn hilt and is quite heavy.

Michael

Hello Michael,

thank you for confirm that Soemba is Sumba. I have my doubts since this knife look more like a utility knife than a weapon. When you look for example the graceful examples Charles posted in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
This two knifes look much more like a weapon like my one. Also your very nice second example is more a weapon than a utility knife.

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Old 4th July 2011, 05:09 PM   #3
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Detlef,

According to my experience it is Charles' knives that are atypical - not yours, Maurice's and mine. Take a look in the Leiden database for example to see what I mean.

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Detlef,

According to my experience it is Charles' knives that are atypical - not yours, Maurice's and mine. Take a look in the Leiden database for example to see what I mean.

Michael

Hello Michael,

yes, you are correct by this! But I would be very happy when Charles would change his atypical one against my typical ones!

I just think that your second one and the both from Charles are the older ones which can be used as weapons and the other ones are just utility knifes.

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Yes Michael, my post did move away from the theme.

The only reason I made that post was to show exactly what is used to harvest rice.

In every place I have ever visited in Indonesia, farmers use tools to harvest rice, and those tools look pretty much like what farmers in Europe, America and Australia used to use before harvesting became mechanised.

They do not use nicely forged and finished blades mounted in elegant scabbards with finely carved horn hilts, to harvest rice.
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They do not use nicely forged and finished blades mounted in elegant scabbards with finely carved horn hilts, to harvest rice.
That sounds reasonable.
Here are three of my arit that does not fit that description. Do you, or any other forumite, know what these were used for, if not agricultural?

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That sounds reasonable.
Here are three of my arit that does not fit that description. Do you, or any other forumite, know what these were used for, if not agricultural?

Michael
Hi Michael,

I have his twin brother:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13919
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