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Old 3rd July 2011, 01:38 AM   #1
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Hilt style looks very indian to me. This is either a composite or an indian blacksmith experimenting by mixing morrocan and indian styles. Blade doesnt really suggest a morrocan origin, the scabbard does though.
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Old 3rd July 2011, 01:40 AM   #2
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After a 2nd look, the blade does look very similar to koummya blades.
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Old 3rd July 2011, 02:18 AM   #3
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The blade engraving reminds me of Okir style work .
Doubt that it is Phillipine though .
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Old 3rd July 2011, 06:01 AM   #4
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Stu,

It seems this one did the rounds once before;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jewish+sosun

It appears to be an Indian Moroccan Malay hybrid.

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Stu,

It seems this one did the rounds once before;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jewish+sosun

It appears to be an Indian Moroccan Malay hybrid.

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...so there are at least two of these (whatever they are) in existance! The one in the previous post,(and thanks for the link), has very different blade decoration, and the scabbard has two bands, where mine does not have any. Also the decoration at the scabbard mouth and on the hilt against the scabbard is diofferent. Mine is all circle shape decoration and the other is not. Comparative pics attached......
....which means we have an Indian hilt maker who likes moroccan style blades??..... or they are in fact some unknown Moroccan sword/knife. I see from the comments in the other post, that that particular one came with a Nimcha.....so Morocco??
But still the question....What is it?
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Old 3rd July 2011, 11:14 AM   #6
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....which means we have an Indian hilt maker who likes moroccan style blades??..... or they are in fact some unknown Moroccan sword/knife. I see from the comments in the other post, that that particular one came with a Nimcha.....so Morocco??
But still the question....What is it?
Hi Stu
for me, it's a variant of the Moroccan "shula"
- scabbard, and blade are conform
- hilt, inspiration Indian, why not ?

in an old EAA post
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...6&page=1&pp=30
I found this "shula" pic, here also, the hilt is an other variant


but definitively, your blade has all characteristics of Moroccan blacksmith


the "shula" apparently, never been an fighting weapon,
even if this dagger is potentially very lethal,
was used for weddings, or other ceremonies

I think the Moroccan craftsmen, demonstrated some originality,
or meet a particular command of one of their customers
beautiful proof, of creativity, and artistic spirit

à +

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Old 3rd July 2011, 02:22 PM   #7
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Hi Stu,
cannot add any other ideas that hasn't already been said. But, I am intriqued by the curved spike on the pommel.....it looks as if it would interfere with the wielding hand ...perhaps painfully ? Any ideas why it is there ?

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