Dapur question ?

danny1976 · 13th May 2011, 06:04 PM

Hello Jean,

Thanks for your replay , but i don,t believe that the ad/cut the sogokans .

On the photo it,s not so clear but when i have the blade in my hand you can see the pamor going true in the sogokans and also in the ganja .
So the me it looks like a good blade and not a reshaped blade , and second this blade is in Holland for almost 80 years and i will believe that the also reshaped blades in that time but not so much as the do now days in Indonesia to make a blade more nice for the market .

But of course i can be wrong

regards,

danny

Jean · 13th May 2011, 07:49 PM

Hello Danny,
Of course there is pamor under the sogokans but the repeating pamor motif looks "broken" at this level.
If the blade is in its original condition, then according to the EK and the book "Dhapur" it is out of pakem. However you can look in the book "Keris - Daya Magic, etc...) from Ki Hudoyo Doyodipuro, which describes 380 types of straight Javanese dapurs (basically according to the Surakarta pakem as I was told), and you may find it, good luck!

And other opinions are welcome!

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13th May 2011, 06:04 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hello Jean, Thanks for your replay , but i don,t believe that the ad/cut the sogokans . On the photo it,s not so clear but when i have the blade in my hand you can see the pamor going true in the sogokans and also in the ganja . So the me it looks like a good blade and not a reshaped blade , and second this blade is in Holland for almost 80 years and i will believe that the also reshaped blades in that time but not so much as the do now days in Indonesia to make a blade more nice for the market . But of course i can be wrong regards, danny

13th May 2011, 07:49 PM	#2
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Danny, Of course there is pamor under the sogokans but the repeating pamor motif looks "broken" at this level. If the blade is in its original condition, then according to the EK and the book "Dhapur" it is out of pakem. However you can look in the book "Keris - Daya Magic, etc...) from Ki Hudoyo Doyodipuro, which describes 380 types of straight Javanese dapurs (basically according to the Surakarta pakem as I was told), and you may find it, good luck! And other opinions are welcome!