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25th January 2011, 11:15 PM
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Hello Amuk, If you are right on its place of origin, what would the scabbard have looked like?
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26th January 2011, 04:43 AM
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 It's difficult to be objective, but I would be more inclined for the sheath to be of psuedo-Riau/Boegis type using any combination of wood, ivory and silver. It would not surprise me if the whole cross-piece were of ivory matching the pommel and the rest of the sheath either partially or totally covered in silverwork (blackened or not). ..... BTW ..... I have seen one Soendang in Kelantan with a similar-looking blade (only one trunk though). I was led to believe that what looked like a twist-core along the centre of the blade was actually a damascene pattern. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to inspect it closer. Apparently, the blade was referred to as 'Mata Djawa'. Anyway, it was a beautiful piece! Best, |
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26th January 2011, 04:53 AM
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Hello Amuk and thank you for your thoughts on the possible scabbard design. As far as the one that you saw in Kelantan were you lucky enough to have gotten pictures of it ? Again my thanks.
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26th January 2011, 10:14 PM
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Sorry. I tried looking for it, but it's hiding in my system somewhere. It'll probably pop up when I'm looking for something else. I obviously hadn't catalogued it as I hadn't deemed it a priority at the time (just a curio). From what I recall (barring a 'senior moment' ), the damascene pattern was similar to a 'pamor bulu ayam' but not quite. It resembled more a double twist-core (more a series of compressed folding waves rather than a series of lines). I took a second look after I learnt that it wasn't twist-core. I couldn't examine it any closer, as it was 'out of reach'.Best, |
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25th January 2012, 04:13 AM
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Just bumping this up to see if anyone has any more info about this beautiful msytery piece.
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25th January 2012, 10:43 AM
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What a mystery !!
This sundang seems to be very very similar to the one against my wall !? The ivory hilt has been repaired and the twist core blade with same paterns... Baca baca later addition Hummm ... |
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25th January 2012, 05:06 PM
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Henri you have a nice Maguindanao piece there. Blade could use an etching to bring out that twistcore.
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