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GIO · 25th January 2011, 06:18 PM

It is my opinion too that the hilt must be removed before cleaning the blade.
I always clean also the peksi (tang) to prevent an over - rusting, and remove the gangia to eliminate rust which forms between the gangia and the upper part of the blade. At the end I apply, on the tang only, an anti-rust varnish.
To conclude, considering the condition of the blade, I am afraid the pinapple juce will not do so much (but I never tried this method) I normally use either elecrolitic cleaning or bio-deruster. In some cases, but with great care, also a solution of phosforic acid.

David · 25th January 2011, 08:51 PM

I am afraid i disargee Gio. Pineapple juice will clean this keris just fine. Perhaps not as fast as your methods, but it is a very effective slow acting acid. This blade does not seem to be so far gone as you seem to think.

A. G. Maisey · 26th January 2011, 02:44 AM

I first used pineapple juice to clean a keris blade in about 1955.

I used it because I had read that coconut water should be used to remove rust from a keris blade, and I could not get coconut water.

Since 1955 I've done a few blades with pineapple juice, and I consider it to be better than coconut water, which I have also used.

I agree that there are many possible ways in which to remove rust from a keris blade, however, pineapple juice does work very well.

amiles · 29th January 2011, 02:28 PM

I've now cleaned and oiled the blade, which has made a huge difference (see photos). This took about three days of soaking in pineapple juice, with occasional brushing with a tooth brush and the use of a dental pick to carefully remove some of the bigger bits of rust. I'm so pleased I did it - the blade looks so much better, so thanks for all your advice.

Is anyone able to hazard a guess as to it's age?

Many thanks,

Andy

David · 29th January 2011, 05:12 PM

I don't usually hazard guesses on age, but i feel confident that your blade is an old one. Now that it is cleaned i think i will agree with Sajen that perhaps the gonjo is a later replacement. The level of erosion and look if the iron seems completely different from the blade itself.

kulbuntet · 30th January 2011, 04:04 AM

Im with David and Sajen.. Gonjo is replaced, but afther some more cleaning and a waragnan wash...stil nice piece! I like the medak, dont see them often anny more. Regards

amiles · 1st February 2011, 01:27 PM

Thanks again for all your help and suggestions.

Andy

29th January 2011, 02:28 PM	#4
amiles Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London Posts: 5	I've now cleaned and oiled the blade, which has made a huge difference (see photos). This took about three days of soaking in pineapple juice, with occasional brushing with a tooth brush and the use of a dental pick to carefully remove some of the bigger bits of rust. I'm so pleased I did it - the blade looks so much better, so thanks for all your advice. Is anyone able to hazard a guess as to it's age? Many thanks, Andy Attached Images

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25th January 2011, 06:18 PM	#1
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 328	It is my opinion too that the hilt must be removed before cleaning the blade. I always clean also the peksi (tang) to prevent an over - rusting, and remove the gangia to eliminate rust which forms between the gangia and the upper part of the blade. At the end I apply, on the tang only, an anti-rust varnish. To conclude, considering the condition of the blade, I am afraid the pinapple juce will not do so much (but I never tried this method) I normally use either elecrolitic cleaning or bio-deruster. In some cases, but with great care, also a solution of phosforic acid.

25th January 2011, 08:51 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I am afraid i disargee Gio. Pineapple juice will clean this keris just fine. Perhaps not as fast as your methods, but it is a very effective slow acting acid. This blade does not seem to be so far gone as you seem to think.

26th January 2011, 02:44 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I first used pineapple juice to clean a keris blade in about 1955. I used it because I had read that coconut water should be used to remove rust from a keris blade, and I could not get coconut water. Since 1955 I've done a few blades with pineapple juice, and I consider it to be better than coconut water, which I have also used. I agree that there are many possible ways in which to remove rust from a keris blade, however, pineapple juice does work very well.

29th January 2011, 05:12 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I don't usually hazard guesses on age, but i feel confident that your blade is an old one. Now that it is cleaned i think i will agree with Sajen that perhaps the gonjo is a later replacement. The level of erosion and look if the iron seems completely different from the blade itself.

30th January 2011, 04:04 AM	#6
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Im with David and Sajen.. Gonjo is replaced, but afther some more cleaning and a waragnan wash...stil nice piece! I like the medak, dont see them often anny more. Regards

1st February 2011, 01:27 PM	#7
amiles Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London Posts: 5	Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. Andy