New Moro kris

Sajen · 20th November 2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by David

The last light of the afternoon was just fading, but i had enough time to get this quick shot if it helps.

Yes, same profile of the pommel! Very nice kris you have got from Jose and great restore job from him. It seems from the picture Jose posted that it have nearly the same way of lamination.

David · 20th November 2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Yes, same profile of the pommel! Very nice kris you have got from Jose and great restore job from him. It semms from the picture Jose posted that it have nearly the same way of lamination.

Yes, it's laminations are similar. And for the record i got this off Spunger a few years ago via José so it made the rounds...

Sajen · 20th November 2010, 01:45 PM

Here a second example of the same pommel style from Oriental-Arms.

Battara · 20th November 2010, 03:30 PM

Yes that is why I with Rick say to leave the pommel alone - it appears to be a Maguindanao style.

And yes I sold mine to Spunger originally. A great piece (too bad I needed the money at the time

).

Thank for the comments Sajen. One of my earliest restoration projects.

kai · 21st November 2010, 02:21 AM

Examples of this pommel style which were obviously original never show a distinct beak (i. e. both, beak and crest, heavily stylized). Since Detlef's examples has a distinct beak and also the flow of lines where the crest could have been seems to be unusual, I'd guess that the original pommel got recarved a long time ago.

Regards,
Kai

David · 21st November 2010, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Examples of this pommel style which were obviously original never show a distinct beak (i. e. both, beak and crest, heavily stylized). Since Detlef's examples has a distinct beak and also the flow of lines where the crest could have been seems to be unusual, I'd guess that the original pommel got recarved a long time ago.
Regards,
Kai

Well that's my thought as well Kai. To me Sajen's pommel looks unbalanced while these other examples do not. So i vote that it broke some time ago and was recarved. Still i would also agree with the others to leave the pommel as is. Recarved or not it is what it is and i wouldn't attempt to change anything.

Sajen · 21st November 2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Examples of this pommel style which were obviously original never show a distinct beak (i. e. both, beak and crest, heavily stylized). Since Detlef's examples has a distinct beak and also the flow of lines where the crest could have been seems to be unusual, I'd guess that the original pommel got recarved a long time ago.

Regards,
Kai

Agree that the beak is longer/distinct as the other examples are shown, so you maybe right by your guess.

Regards,

Detlef

20th November 2010, 01:45 PM	#3
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20th November 2010, 03:30 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Yes that is why I with Rick say to leave the pommel alone - it appears to be a Maguindanao style. And yes I sold mine to Spunger originally. A great piece (too bad I needed the money at the time ). Thank for the comments Sajen. One of my earliest restoration projects.

21st November 2010, 02:21 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Examples of this pommel style which were obviously original never show a distinct beak (i. e. both, beak and crest, heavily stylized). Since Detlef's examples has a distinct beak and also the flow of lines where the crest could have been seems to be unusual, I'd guess that the original pommel got recarved a long time ago. Regards, Kai