Ottoman Turkish inscription: Need single word translated

Battara · 2nd November 2010, 11:22 PM

Love the beautiful twist core!

Now show the rest of the piece please!

Atlantia · 3rd November 2010, 12:09 AM

I can't believe you guys have missed the 'story so far' LOL!!!!!

This is a Turkish Kindjal dated 1904. It has an interesting twistcore in star pattern, with a nice temper line down the edges.

Seriously though, thank you Gentlemen, I hope you can see why I'm so desperate to get as much information as I can about this sword.

katana · 3rd November 2010, 12:53 AM

Hi Gene,
I haven't commented on this so far.....but it's a beaut....congrats

Regards David

Robert · 3rd November 2010, 01:19 AM

Gene, This is absolutely stunning. Blades like this make me think about widening my collection to include more that just Philippine items. Sorry to say I can't help with the translation, I'm still working on English !!!

Robert

Atlantia · 3rd November 2010, 10:47 PM

David.
Cheers mate, nice to find something good all the way down here in the burbs.

Robert.
Your collection is so damn good! My Kindjal would be lost in its beauty!

Thank you guys

I've really 'put out the feelers' on this one. I've spoken to a chap by email who a fellow kind forumite put me in the direction of. He collects Kindjals, and I believe has a dozen or so pattern welded ones in his collection.
Luckily, he very kindly answered my 'newbie' Kindjal collecting questions.
He agrees with the majority view that this is definately a Turkish example, he says that it is very unusually late for the pattern to be so clear and that they (twistcores I presume) are usually from Tbilisi or Batumi, Turkish and Dagestani tend to be more rare.

So rare amongst the rare!
I've never even seen another genuine twistcore Kindjal in person, of any style or type, so to me it's truly uber-rare!
So you can see why I'm pee'd-off that I can't read the makers name

Someone must be able to read it?

Best
Gene

Atlantia · 7th November 2010, 12:16 PM

A kind forumite suggested that it looked like 'H'
As in 'Amel H' ?

Zifir · 8th November 2010, 01:43 PM

That forumite is also shilly-shallying about his reading of the script

If I am allowed to correct my mistake, it is B and H (I think). I can't find suitable vocalization for this word though. Assuming this is a specific Caucasian name, rather than a Turkish one, all we need is to find someone who is familiar with languages and names of that area.

3rd November 2010, 12:09 AM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I can't believe you guys have missed the 'story so far' LOL!!!!! This is a Turkish Kindjal dated 1904. It has an interesting twistcore in star pattern, with a nice temper line down the edges. Seriously though, thank you Gentlemen, I hope you can see why I'm so desperate to get as much information as I can about this sword. Attached Images

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2nd November 2010, 11:22 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Love the beautiful twist core! Now show the rest of the piece please!

3rd November 2010, 12:53 AM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Gene, I haven't commented on this so far.....but it's a beaut....congrats Regards David

3rd November 2010, 01:19 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Gene, This is absolutely stunning. Blades like this make me think about widening my collection to include more that just Philippine items. Sorry to say I can't help with the translation, I'm still working on English !!! Robert

3rd November 2010, 10:47 PM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	David. Cheers mate, nice to find something good all the way down here in the burbs. Robert. Your collection is so damn good! My Kindjal would be lost in its beauty! Thank you guys I've really 'put out the feelers' on this one. I've spoken to a chap by email who a fellow kind forumite put me in the direction of. He collects Kindjals, and I believe has a dozen or so pattern welded ones in his collection. Luckily, he very kindly answered my 'newbie' Kindjal collecting questions. He agrees with the majority view that this is definately a Turkish example, he says that it is very unusually late for the pattern to be so clear and that they (twistcores I presume) are usually from Tbilisi or Batumi, Turkish and Dagestani tend to be more rare. So rare amongst the rare! I've never even seen another genuine twistcore Kindjal in person, of any style or type, so to me it's truly uber-rare! So you can see why I'm pee'd-off that I can't read the makers name Someone must be able to read it? Best Gene

7th November 2010, 12:16 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	A kind forumite suggested that it looked like 'H' As in 'Amel H' ?

8th November 2010, 01:43 PM	#7
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	That forumite is also shilly-shallying about his reading of the script If I am allowed to correct my mistake, it is B and H (I think). I can't find suitable vocalization for this word though. Assuming this is a specific Caucasian name, rather than a Turkish one, all we need is to find someone who is familiar with languages and names of that area.