A Very Nice Dagger

[Robert]

Dimasalang, Thank you very much for your help with trying to get an accurate dating on this dagger and for the information on dating the sunface design. What would be your thoughts on the blade design? Do you think it possible that it was made for someone who was originally from the Visayan region or something else entirely? Thanks again.

Robert

[migueldiaz]

Robert, nice dagger, congrats! I've really got nothing to add, especially after Dimasalang's usual in-depth comments

[baatar108]

is the hilt horn?

[Robert]

Hello baatar108,
Yes, the hilt is carabao (water buffalo) horn. The fittings look to be either nickel silver, silver or silver plate. I won't be sure until it arrives.

Robert

[Dimasalang]

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Dimasalang, Thank you very much for your help with trying to get an accurate dating on this dagger and for the information on dating the sunface design. What would be your thoughts on the blade design? Do you think it possible that it was made for someone who was originally from the Visayan region or something else entirely? Thanks again.

Robert

These are still difficult to place. Your dagger looks to follow suit with all the ones that come from Luzon. But I remember the Leandro Fullon dagger that was posted here also, which looks similar.(what ever happened to those photos?) And Fullon was a native of Antique(Visayas). Aguinaldo appointed him one of the commanding generals for Visayas. This is my own guess, but I believe Aguinaldo had several daggers made(along with their uniforms) for his high ranking officers and generals and sent these daggers out to them even if they were far from Luzon...they all seem to be somewhat similar to one another, particularly the sheath. I have yet to see other daggers similar in style that came from the Visayas region(prior to or after the Phil-Am War). Lorenz and Nacho would more likely know. If there are, please let me know too.

Off topic:
Interesting, I just found out Leaodro Fullon was born in March 1877, which places him as one of the youngest Filipino generals that I did not know about...there have always been big debates of who was the youngest, Gregorio Del Pilar or Manuel Tinio...Fullon was never brought in to the picture. Tinio still edges Fullon out as the youngest by 2 months. Learn something new everyday!

[David]

Originally Posted by Dimasalang

But I remember the Leandro Fullon dagger that was posted here also, which looks similar.
Off topic:
Interesting, I just found out Leaodro Fullon was born in March 1877, which places him as one of the youngest Filipino generals that I did not know about...there have always been big debates of who was the youngest, Gregorio Del Pilar or Manuel Tinio...Fullon was never brought in to the picture. Tinio still edges Fullon out as the youngest by 2 months. Learn something new everyday!

Those images were never posted directly to the forum. The link in now gone. This is why we always encourage direct uploads to this site of all your photographic examples.
Bill, perhaps you can be convinced to upload these to this thread again for reference. It certainly is a beautiful and historic dagger which would be helpful for further reference.

[Bill M]

David, just noticed this. Will upload photos. Add here or start new thread?

[David]

Originally Posted by Bill M

David, just noticed this. Will upload photos. Add here or start new thread?

Thanks Bill. I'd say add here as it seems to relate to this subject. Though it certainly is a dagger worthy of it's own thread...

[Bill M]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...398#post110398

[Robert]

Bill, Thank you for posting the link to your dagger, it is very nice indeed!!

Robert