Interesting arquebuse

Pukka Bundook · 20th October 2010, 02:43 PM

Hmmm....
Interesting gun!
I would have thought that the stock/tiller migh have been replaced at some point, though quite a long time ago! ...replaced, or heavily cleaned I would have said. The reason for this, is the apparent lack of handling marks, and the stains from the metal not being too pronounced
I could very well be wrong!!!
Is the tiller pointing somewhat "up-hill"? from the photo, it appears higher at the butt-end than at the wrist or grip.

Michael,
Hello!
On the gun you show, do you think it was at one time fitted with a serpentine? I am only going by the apparent hole in the stock below and behind the tang.

Best.
Richard.

Spiridonov · 20th October 2010, 03:35 PM

Michael, thank you very much for comments. I has just found the website which include this photos
http://www.feuerwaffen.ch/halbhaken.htm

Matchlock · 20th October 2010, 03:43 PM

Hello Richard,

You may be right in doubting the age of the stock. I have seen many in museums, especially Vienna, which, though being original, had been robbed of all their patina.

Anyway, I could not judge just on the grounds of these pics.

Well, I am positive there never was a serpentine on the Zürich Haken. The hole you meant would be much too big for a nail pivot of a serpentine but was for a wooden or iron transversal bolt that went thru the 'tang' and fixed it to the stock.

Best,
Michael

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20th October 2010, 02:43 PM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hmmm.... Interesting gun! I would have thought that the stock/tiller migh have been replaced at some point, though quite a long time ago! ...replaced, or heavily cleaned I would have said. The reason for this, is the apparent lack of handling marks, and the stains from the metal not being too pronounced I could very well be wrong!!! Is the tiller pointing somewhat "up-hill"? from the photo, it appears higher at the butt-end than at the wrist or grip. Michael, Hello! On the gun you show, do you think it was at one time fitted with a serpentine? I am only going by the apparent hole in the stock below and behind the tang. Best. Richard.

20th October 2010, 03:35 PM	#2
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, thank you very much for comments. I has just found the website which include this photos http://www.feuerwaffen.ch/halbhaken.htm

20th October 2010, 03:43 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hello Richard, You may be right in doubting the age of the stock. I have seen many in museums, especially Vienna, which, though being original, had been robbed of all their patina. Anyway, I could not judge just on the grounds of these pics. Well, I am positive there never was a serpentine on the Zürich Haken. The hole you meant would be much too big for a nail pivot of a serpentine but was for a wooden or iron transversal bolt that went thru the 'tang' and fixed it to the stock. Best, Michael