Lance head/ spear point for ID

asomotif · 8th September 2010, 11:38 PM

Hello Henk,

Thanks for your input.
But javanese with the square tang and also this rather large size.
The 34 cms is excluding the tang.

I have not seen javanese tombak in such style and size. (yet)

Best regards,
Willem

Henk · 8th September 2010, 11:58 PM

Willem,

someone has to be the first

kai · 9th September 2010, 02:13 AM

Hello Willem,

This looks like post-WW2 work to me - non-traditional stuff can be tough to place: I'd guess Indonesia but wouldn't rule out Philippines (certainly not traditional Moro though) nor Malaysia.

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 9th September 2010, 04:51 PM

Hi Willem,

my guess is that it is from Indonesia, the turned tang seems typical. But from which island/ethnic I don't know.

But I think that it is pre-WW2. By which reason someone shall have forged a spear- or lance head with not bad accomplishment after WW2?

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 9th September 2010, 09:47 PM

I found some spears on RMV website with holes near the base.
There are similarities, although mine is much broader.
The tang of the RMV pieces would be nice to see for comparison.

asomotif · 26th January 2018, 08:52 PM

I found another similar lance this week.

David · 27th January 2018, 12:44 AM

Well, it seems to have a metuk so that seems to place it somewhere in Indonesia for me. I couldn't say exactly where though. Seems like it could be early 20th century.

9th September 2010, 09:47 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Pics from RMV Leiden I found some spears on RMV website with holes near the base. There are similarities, although mine is much broader. The tang of the RMV pieces would be nice to see for comparison. Attached Images

26th January 2018, 08:52 PM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	I found another similar lance this week. Attached Images

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8th September 2010, 11:38 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Hello Henk, Thanks for your input. But javanese with the square tang and also this rather large size. The 34 cms is excluding the tang. I have not seen javanese tombak in such style and size. (yet) Best regards, Willem

8th September 2010, 11:58 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Willem, someone has to be the first

9th September 2010, 02:13 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Willem, This looks like post-WW2 work to me - non-traditional stuff can be tough to place: I'd guess Indonesia but wouldn't rule out Philippines (certainly not traditional Moro though) nor Malaysia. Regards, Kai

9th September 2010, 04:51 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,166	Hi Willem, my guess is that it is from Indonesia, the turned tang seems typical. But from which island/ethnic I don't know. But I think that it is pre-WW2. By which reason someone shall have forged a spear- or lance head with not bad accomplishment after WW2? Regards, Detlef

27th January 2018, 12:44 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,212	Well, it seems to have a metuk so that seems to place it somewhere in Indonesia for me. I couldn't say exactly where though. Seems like it could be early 20th century.