Proposed Changes in Swap Forum Rules

[Lew]

Fearn

You said We don't give appraisals, but you want us to post asking prices? These policies seem to be contradictory.


1-You are correct no appraisal on the public forum but that does not stop any member from contacting another member in private to see what he or she thinks something is worth. Also one can just go to ebay or one of the many dealers of antique weapons web sites to get an idea of what a piece is worth

2-Have you ever gone into a store that did not post prices? When you go into a store to buy a camera do you expect the store to post a price or do you take the camera with no price tag and go up to the store owner and let him decide how much he wants to charge you? He might decide to charge you more because you drove up to the store in a BMW while the next person might get a different price because they drove to the store in a Honda civic. Please don't give me that line that has been used before by some "I tell you a price privately and if it's too much then you don't have too buy it". Try that line at your local food mart store excuse me sir there is no price posted on this quart of milk? Pssst over here.... Well the price for you is $20 if it's too much than don't buy it! It should be all about transparency here. If you want to use the swap you should be able to come up with a asking price that you think meets your expectations of what you want to get from the sale of said item and post it for all members to see. I think this is a pretty reasonable request.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Lew

Fearn

You said We don't give appraisals, but you want us to post asking prices? These policies seem to be contradictory.


1-You are correct no appraisal on the public forum but that does not stop any member from contacting another member in private to see what he or she thinks something is worth. Also one can just go to ebay or one of the many dealers of antique weapons web sites to get an idea of what a piece is worth

2-Have you ever gone into a store that did not post prices? When you go into a store to buy a camera do you expect the store to post a price or do you take the camera with no price tag and go up to the store owner and let him decide how much he wants to charge you? He might decide to charge you more because you drove up to the store in a BMW while the next person might get a different price because they drove to the store in a Honda civic. Please don't give me that line that has been used before by some "I tell you a price privately and if it's too much then you don't have too buy it". Try that line at your local food mart store excuse me sir there is no price posted on this quart of milk? Pssst over here.... Well the price for you is $20 if it's too much than don't buy it! It should be all about transparency here. If you want to use the swap you should be able to come up with a asking price that you think meets your expectations of what you want to get from the sale of said item and post it for all members to see. I think this is a pretty reasonable request.

Hi Lew,
I don't want to comment on anything said above, EXCEPT the need to post a price when an item is up for swap. Often price or worth does not come into it when a swap is arranged. If both parties to the deal are happy, the actual value of the pieces exchanged may be way apart.
No mandatory listing of prices remains my vote.
Stuart

[Lew]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Lew,
I don't want to comment on anything said above, EXCEPT the need to post a price when an item is up for swap. Often price or worth does not come into it when a swap is arranged. If both parties to the deal are happy, the actual value of the pieces exchanged may be way apart.
No mandatory listing of prices remains my vote.
Stuart

Stuart

In a trade situation you mean? I think price is only required if you are selling not trading that is my take on it.

[kahnjar1]

Yes Lew. I thought the term SWAP meant just that.
Since you are obviously "live" I think that the Members need some comment from the Moderators as to the perceived need for ANY of these changes. If the Forum becomes too difficult with large numbers of rules, I feel that people will start looking elsewhere. It would be a great pity to break something which is in my opinion working well anyway.
Stuart

[fernando]

Hi Stu,

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

... If the Forum becomes too difficult with large numbers of rules, I feel that people will start looking elsewhere ...

Bitter feelings, my friend .
Say, aren't you 'swapping' things ?
Improving swap rules is the issue here
I would never dream with your assumption that, utilizing the swap section, is the major reason to frequent Vickingsword forum .
Fernando

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by fernando

Improving swap rules is the issue here
Fernando

Improving anything is good as long as it is an improvement, for clarity for all, where are the deficencies currently with the swap forum that warrant this structure or improvments? Perhaps they are the points that should be discussed openly with whys.

Gav

[Lew]

As for posting an asking price for a sale items. I belong to a few other collector sites and they are pretty clear on this matter you must post a price if you are selling an item. So if these other forums use this rule why is it such a big deal here? Btw email addresses should be optional IMO.

Gav

Since you are a dealer which one of the purposed rules do you have issues with?

[David]

Originally Posted by freebooter

Improving anything is good as long as it is an improvement, for clarity for all, where are the deficencies currently with the swap forum that warrant this structure or improvments? Perhaps they are the points that should be discussed openly with whys.

Well Gav, i did a bit of that in my post #13, to which no one seems to have responded to other than other moderators.