Where is this sheat from?

Gustav · 15th May 2010, 09:06 PM

Moshah,

thank you very much for the explanation.

Do you call "cheek line" feature visible also here? : http://keris.fotopic.net/p56874076.html

Moshah · 15th May 2010, 09:12 PM

Hi Gustav,

Yes it was in that picture.

Sorry "cheek line" is not a proper term for it. I dunno what u called it, but what i meant is the line from upper crosspiece to lower, where the line is in between a "/" and a "k" in the watermark "http://keris.fotopic.net"

Gustav · 15th May 2010, 09:20 PM

Then this feature would appear also on a Cirebon wrongko?

Moshah · 15th May 2010, 09:26 PM

What I meant is that this feature appears on cirebonese wronko, even it is on the cirebonese sample pix that Sajen had posted.

But both the coteng keris pix samples that I have uploaded, plus Sajen's new sheath, do not possess this feature.

Gustav · 15th May 2010, 09:44 PM

Ok, I was getting disoriented by your Oriental Arms picture, where the left side is the right side. I ment the ridge at the bottom of wrongko on other side.

A. G. Maisey · 15th May 2010, 11:10 PM

It seems to me that this question is going in circles.

I believe we all recognise that Kai Wee has some experience of Peninsula keris, and he seems to think that this wrongko is not Peninsula.

The rest of us, including myself, are only offering suggestions with no real knowledge or evidence to back those suggestions.

One regular contributor to discussions here , who does know something of the Cirebon area, is Ganja Wulung.

I feel that at this point in this discussion his opinion on this matter would be highly valued.

Come on Pak Ganja, float an informed opinion, so that we can put all our uninformed opinions to one side.

ganjawulung · 15th May 2010, 11:42 PM

Thanks Alan,

Honestly, I am not so sure which style of warangka it is. But IMHO, it is not Cirebon style (for comparison, images #1 below, are Cirebon style warangkas). Or we might compare it to Tegal warangka? (Image # 2 below)'

It would do much help, if Detlef would take picture from above. To see the upper form (the "daunan") of the warangka..

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 16th May 2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

Hi Gustav,

Yes it was in that picture.

Sorry "cheek line" is not a proper term for it. I dunno what u called it, but what i meant is the line from upper crosspiece to lower, where the line is in between a "/" and a "k" in the watermark "http://keris.fotopic.net"

It's called "lata" so far I know.

15th May 2010, 09:44 PM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Ok, I was getting disoriented by your Oriental Arms picture, where the left side is the right side. I ment the ridge at the bottom of wrongko on other side. Last edited by Gustav; 15th May 2010 at 10:29 PM.

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ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Thanks Alan, Honestly, I am not so sure which style of warangka it is. But IMHO, it is not Cirebon style (for comparison, images #1 below, are Cirebon style warangkas). Or we might compare it to Tegal warangka? (Image # 2 below)' It would do much help, if Detlef would take picture from above. To see the upper form (the "daunan") of the warangka.. GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

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15th May 2010, 09:06 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Moshah, thank you very much for the explanation. Do you call "cheek line" feature visible also here? : http://keris.fotopic.net/p56874076.html

15th May 2010, 09:12 PM	#2
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Hi Gustav, Yes it was in that picture. Sorry "cheek line" is not a proper term for it. I dunno what u called it, but what i meant is the line from upper crosspiece to lower, where the line is in between a "/" and a "k" in the watermark "http://keris.fotopic.net"

15th May 2010, 09:20 PM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Then this feature would appear also on a Cirebon wrongko?

15th May 2010, 09:26 PM	#4
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	What I meant is that this feature appears on cirebonese wronko, even it is on the cirebonese sample pix that Sajen had posted. But both the coteng keris pix samples that I have uploaded, plus Sajen's new sheath, do not possess this feature.

15th May 2010, 11:10 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	It seems to me that this question is going in circles. I believe we all recognise that Kai Wee has some experience of Peninsula keris, and he seems to think that this wrongko is not Peninsula. The rest of us, including myself, are only offering suggestions with no real knowledge or evidence to back those suggestions. One regular contributor to discussions here , who does know something of the Cirebon area, is Ganja Wulung. I feel that at this point in this discussion his opinion on this matter would be highly valued. Come on Pak Ganja, float an informed opinion, so that we can put all our uninformed opinions to one side.