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				Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking 
				
				
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			Hi Spiridonov, 
		
		
		
			As you you, these items retaining their original stocks are almost impossible to find. We know of some 1460-80 haquebuts with their stocks actually retained but of less than five surviving short, portable (h)arquebuses. The earliest and crudest of them may be a piece at the Pilsen Armory (top). A second, now at the Royal Armouries Leeds, may be as early as the 1470's-80's (next down in line). The snap tinder mechanism is missing except for the main spring. Four others, illustrated in Diebold Schilling's Berne Chronicle (1483), seemingly have no surviving syblings; their butt stocks look strikingly modern. Another actual sample, at the Bavarian Army Museum Ingolstadt, should in my opinion be dated "ca. 1500"; it never had a mechanism. Exactly this type is illustrated in Diebold Schilling's Lucerne Chronicle of 1513. Of a different type of early stocks we have only an illustration in the Landshut Armory Inventory of 1485. Regards, Michael  | 
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