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Old 24th June 2007, 06:45 AM   #10
ganjawulung
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Dear All,

Thank you, for your useful information on this "confusing" matters for me. Such case often seen in Jakarta, or in Central Java, East Java. And even, broadcated in television. The image of keris in Indonesia, always related to the magical happenings, or witchcraft... Thank you Pangeran Datu, BluErf, PenangsangII, Newsteel, Alamshah and David for your explanations.

Pangeran Datu:
Your story remind me to many shows in Indonesian television on "Debus" in Banten. Maybe it is not trickery, but I don't know exactly why this can happen. Many Banten "jawara" -- usually they are pencak masters -- who has such kind of "magic devine power". Even they slice their hands but unhurt, in front of television camera...

BluErf:
I am thinking of this trick too (about Pangeran's story on the penca master). Really a tricky show, maybe...

PenangsangII:
Yes, the empus and keris makers will be out of job, if this "sedhotan keris" is not trickery...

Newsteel:
I am suspicious too, and thinking about the "deposite box" possibility. Oneday, my friend brought me a stained and muddy keris. He said, that this keris is a "sedhotan keris" obtained by an "orang pintar" (I don't know the English word). But what I know is, that the muddy keris is really pretty sure a Madurese 20th century or even 21th century keris. With the quality of, say it -- tourist keris, or souvenir keris.

David:
This trickery brings a negative image of keris in Indonesia. Keris always related with trickery craftmanship. And the exposure of such things in television is too much, usually via the "sinetron" (cinema in television), or certain misleading "mystical" program in Indonesian television...

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