Satanic dagger, Age & country of Origin?

David · 9th January 2007, 05:32 PM

Well actually Spiral, i laughed the first time and sorta said "duh!" to myself, so the second time around it was getting old. No offense really.

I think you may have misunderstood my position. I am not denying that satanic groups have and do exist. I do, however, think some of these blades may have been misinterpreted. I actually think people are more likely to jump to the conclusion that things are satanic, often when they are not. The early church, and to some extent the present one, would consider anything non-Christian to have a satanic root. The owl can be seen as a representative of Moloch, but for me it is a stretch to connect old pre-Christian gods with satanism even if they were rumored to perform human sacrifices.
I think it is very important to realize the source of the stories of satanic cults before we buy any of the infomation they present without a large grain of salt. No, this doesn't mean that i am in denial that such cults have and do exist, but i do seriously downplay the conspiratorial hype surrounding these stories. Groups were often labelled satanic by the church simply because they had gained too much power for the comfort level of the church and local governments. See the story of the knights Templars for instance. It was also said of them that initiates had to spit on and trample the cross and that they prayed to a head in a box called Baphomet. What the church and the government really wanted were all their fertile lands in the south of France. They also started the European banking system and many powerful people owed them money. I guess they must be satanists, eh?

I have studied the occult and it's histories now for nearly 30 years, so perhaps i have a different perspective on it than most. I do know that things are not always what they seem nor what they would have us believe.

9th January 2007, 05:32 PM	#11
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well actually Spiral, i laughed the first time and sorta said "duh!" to myself, so the second time around it was getting old. No offense really. I think you may have misunderstood my position. I am not denying that satanic groups have and do exist. I do, however, think some of these blades may have been misinterpreted. I actually think people are more likely to jump to the conclusion that things are satanic, often when they are not. The early church, and to some extent the present one, would consider anything non-Christian to have a satanic root. The owl can be seen as a representative of Moloch, but for me it is a stretch to connect old pre-Christian gods with satanism even if they were rumored to perform human sacrifices. I think it is very important to realize the source of the stories of satanic cults before we buy any of the infomation they present without a large grain of salt. No, this doesn't mean that i am in denial that such cults have and do exist, but i do seriously downplay the conspiratorial hype surrounding these stories. Groups were often labelled satanic by the church simply because they had gained too much power for the comfort level of the church and local governments. See the story of the knights Templars for instance. It was also said of them that initiates had to spit on and trample the cross and that they prayed to a head in a box called Baphomet. What the church and the government really wanted were all their fertile lands in the south of France. They also started the European banking system and many powerful people owed them money. I guess they must be satanists, eh? I have studied the occult and it's histories now for nearly 30 years, so perhaps i have a different perspective on it than most. I do know that things are not always what they seem nor what they would have us believe.