12th-13th Century Jinete Swords?

anoakenstaff · Yesterday, 03:38 PM

Salaams, all.

I've been a lurker for a few years, and I wanted to make an account to ask about a couple things I thought were related enough to fit in one thread.

Firstly, what information do we have on jineta, or 'proto-jineta’ swords in the 1100s and 1200s? I know there’s very few surviving relevant swords for this period, including the ones Nicolle covers and the one in the ‘Identificacion de una espada jineta de guerra’ paper, but my knowledge is very lacking beyond the few papers, so I would love to know if there have been any other extants found, or more research published.

Secondly, I have been trying to write for a while on the sword found on this 13th-century French effigy of a knight of the d’Alluye family. While I have found some interesting similar features on European effigies or art (such as the pommel on the effigy of Hasculf de Subligny), the idea of this sword having been a jineta seems to have been raised and gone unanswered on the forum earlier, so I wanted to include that in case any forum members might have information that might relate this to a Spanish purchase or such. I’m particularly curious about the scabbard arrangement, I don't recall ever seeing anything quite like this before.

Photo from: https://www.metmuseum.org/perspectiv...ndering-knight

Yesterday, 03:38 PM	#1
anoakenstaff Member Join Date: Jan 2026 Posts: 1	12th-13th Century Jinete Swords? Salaams, all. I've been a lurker for a few years, and I wanted to make an account to ask about a couple things I thought were related enough to fit in one thread. Firstly, what information do we have on jineta, or 'proto-jineta’ swords in the 1100s and 1200s? I know there’s very few surviving relevant swords for this period, including the ones Nicolle covers and the one in the ‘Identificacion de una espada jineta de guerra’ paper, but my knowledge is very lacking beyond the few papers, so I would love to know if there have been any other extants found, or more research published. Secondly, I have been trying to write for a while on the sword found on this 13th-century French effigy of a knight of the d’Alluye family. While I have found some interesting similar features on European effigies or art (such as the pommel on the effigy of Hasculf de Subligny), the idea of this sword having been a jineta seems to have been raised and gone unanswered on the forum earlier, so I wanted to include that in case any forum members might have information that might relate this to a Spanish purchase or such. I’m particularly curious about the scabbard arrangement, I don't recall ever seeing anything quite like this before. Photo from: https://www.metmuseum.org/perspectiv...ndering-knight Attached Images