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			I cannot see evidence of a core. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I can see several indicators that incline me to think East Jawa, maybe Madura, after 1850. The after 1850 guess is because it does not look as if it has a core and material of adequate quality might not have been available pre-1850. Garap is careless, manufacture would have been low cost. I do not think it is Kamardikan.  | 
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