American Sword with 1803 Style Cross Guard

Hotspur · 19th May 2017, 04:49 AM

A nice complete rig. The crested eagle backstrap variations number in the thousands. Overall, a grand free for all as far as officers went aside from some very basic reglations. I would place the sword later than the blade and guard. Parts used up for decades. Add some art and an eagle then sell it to the yanks. Quite old (decades) blades being used into the 1840s or so. I would list this one in the 1820s and maybe for a mounted artillery officer. Some list the form earlier such as Simon Rycroftt of americanswords.com. Anyway you are spot on re the guard type. Warranted used by many makers both in England and Germany. My French Berger targeted for the US with the word Warranted.

There were very few official regulation eagle pommel swords, while there were a tremendous variation used for four decades or so by our militia. As there was not much of a standing federal army, every large town had a militia and that practice still very much of the same principles back to, well, forever.

Out of many, one. The U.S. motto. A line I was to open a preamble for a Mark Cloke eagle page. He had been busy parenting and I goofing off between medical stuff.

There was a federal request in the mid 1830s for both a spadroon for the infantry and sabre for the artillery. Ames was the US maker. That screaming eagle from Ames then widely copied and remanufactured in England. Then there was a regulation naval form for the 1840s. The many thousands of others used by everyone from cadets to diplomats.

To evaluate the scope of eagle pommel types, browse this old work folder I uploaded for all
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...mM?usp=sharing

Note, an old work in progress with few but me understanding my categories. I may eventually produce something more cohesive with annotations. This is basically an old clipboard

My current upload dump to drive yet more expansive.

Books of interest for eagle lovers are E Andrew Mowbray's old testament American Eagle Pommel Sword: The Early Years 1794-1830
ISBN-10: 0917218361
ISBN-13: 978-0917218361

Mowbray the younger with Norm Flayderman producing American Swords from the Philip Medicus Collection
ISBN-10: 0917218787
ISBN-13: 978-0917218781

Peter Tuite US Naval Officers: Their Swords and Dirks
ISBN-10: 1931464162
ISBN-13: 978-1931464161

Hartzler Silver Mounted Swords, The Lattimer Family Collection
ASIN: B000TBGWMA

Yet more books with some susch as Rankin's naval stuff, Don Furr American swords. I'd write a book but would likely upset some or otherwise be rewriting other's work.

Cheers

GC

19th May 2017, 04:49 AM	#4
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 511	A nice complete rig. The crested eagle backstrap variations number in the thousands. Overall, a grand free for all as far as officers went aside from some very basic reglations. I would place the sword later than the blade and guard. Parts used up for decades. Add some art and an eagle then sell it to the yanks. Quite old (decades) blades being used into the 1840s or so. I would list this one in the 1820s and maybe for a mounted artillery officer. Some list the form earlier such as Simon Rycroftt of americanswords.com. Anyway you are spot on re the guard type. Warranted used by many makers both in England and Germany. My French Berger targeted for the US with the word Warranted. There were very few official regulation eagle pommel swords, while there were a tremendous variation used for four decades or so by our militia. As there was not much of a standing federal army, every large town had a militia and that practice still very much of the same principles back to, well, forever. Out of many, one. The U.S. motto. A line I was to open a preamble for a Mark Cloke eagle page. He had been busy parenting and I goofing off between medical stuff. There was a federal request in the mid 1830s for both a spadroon for the infantry and sabre for the artillery. Ames was the US maker. That screaming eagle from Ames then widely copied and remanufactured in England. Then there was a regulation naval form for the 1840s. The many thousands of others used by everyone from cadets to diplomats. To evaluate the scope of eagle pommel types, browse this old work folder I uploaded for all https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...mM?usp=sharing Note, an old work in progress with few but me understanding my categories. I may eventually produce something more cohesive with annotations. This is basically an old clipboard My current upload dump to drive yet more expansive. Books of interest for eagle lovers are E Andrew Mowbray's old testament American Eagle Pommel Sword: The Early Years 1794-1830 ISBN-10: 0917218361 ISBN-13: 978-0917218361 Mowbray the younger with Norm Flayderman producing American Swords from the Philip Medicus Collection ISBN-10: 0917218787 ISBN-13: 978-0917218781 Peter Tuite US Naval Officers: Their Swords and Dirks ISBN-10: 1931464162 ISBN-13: 978-1931464161 Hartzler Silver Mounted Swords, The Lattimer Family Collection ASIN: B000TBGWMA Yet more books with some susch as Rankin's naval stuff, Don Furr American swords. I'd write a book but would likely upset some or otherwise be rewriting other's work. Cheers GC