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Ian Classifying shashka--a... 8th August 2016, 03:03 PM

mahratt First we need to recall the... 8th August 2016, 03:19 PM

Ian Mahratt, that is an excellent... 8th August 2016, 03:23 PM

mahratt Thank you for the nice words... 8th August 2016, 03:25 PM

Jim McDougall Allow me to second that... 8th August 2016, 03:29 PM

mahratt I think no one doubts that... 8th August 2016, 03:52 PM

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ariel Gentlemen, Enjoy shashkas... 8th August 2016, 04:16 PM

mariusgmioc If those are Shashkas, then... 8th August 2016, 04:21 PM

Kubur yes i agree and some kattara... 8th August 2016, 04:24 PM

mariusgmioc Can somebody please post some... 8th August 2016, 04:29 PM

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mahratt Afghan Shashkas: 9th August 2016, 08:37 AM

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mahratt "Bukahara" Shashkas: 9th August 2016, 08:45 AM

mariusgmioc Thank you very much for the... 9th August 2016, 10:18 AM

Kubur What is the difference... 9th August 2016, 10:23 AM

mariusgmioc From what I see, the Afghan... 9th August 2016, 10:38 AM

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mahratt I am glad that you agree that... 9th August 2016, 10:57 AM

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mahratt Biryuza jewelry in a special... 9th August 2016, 11:03 AM

ariel Marius, There is no doubt... 9th August 2016, 12:07 PM

ariel I am confused: not so long... 9th August 2016, 12:19 PM

mahratt I had no doubt that the Ariel... 9th August 2016, 12:47 PM

mariusgmioc Thank you Ariel and Mahratt... 9th August 2016, 01:43 PM

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mahratt Unfortunately, even the... 9th August 2016, 02:06 PM

ariel The solution to this... 9th August 2016, 02:41 PM

mahratt There is no mystery. I have... 9th August 2016, 02:49 PM

Jim McDougall Actually I find this tedious... 9th August 2016, 08:35 PM

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Ian I am going to try to... 10th August 2016, 12:28 AM

mariusgmioc Excellent summary! I would... 10th August 2016, 06:39 AM

Ian Thanks marius. You are right.... 10th August 2016, 06:54 AM

A. G. Maisey I don't think that we can... 10th August 2016, 08:58 AM

Kubur Of course, if you talk about... 10th August 2016, 09:12 AM

mariusgmioc Albeit I sometimes feel like... 10th August 2016, 10:46 AM

Gavin Nugent What defines a Shashka; It... 10th August 2016, 12:16 PM

ariel I could not agree more. ... 10th August 2016, 01:36 PM

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ariel Just for general... 10th August 2016, 07:34 PM

ariel Comparison of features: ... 10th August 2016, 08:45 PM

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Ian It is a couple of days since... 13th August 2016, 02:57 AM

Gavin Nugent Well done Ian, it greatly... 13th August 2016, 10:51 AM

ariel Gavin, Thanks for providing... 13th August 2016, 03:12 PM

ariel Ian, Many thanks for... 13th August 2016, 03:18 PM

Ian Ariel, you're welcome and... 13th August 2016, 03:55 PM

estcrh Ariel, are you categorizing... 14th August 2016, 01:30 AM

ariel Eric, I thought my summary... 14th August 2016, 04:04 AM

Gavin Nugent Ariel, Firstly, I'd like... 14th August 2016, 12:37 PM

ariel Gavin, I am glad we agree... 14th August 2016, 02:06 PM

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Andreas Buttin in his catalogue shows... 14th August 2016, 09:07 PM

ariel Andreas, 100% correct... 15th August 2016, 12:28 AM

Andreas Of course, as with swords... 15th August 2016, 10:52 AM

Gavin Nugent 646. - SABRE CAUCASUS... 15th August 2016, 12:14 PM

ariel Andreas, Obviously, there... 15th August 2016, 12:42 PM

Andreas Sorry Ariel, I'm not familiar... 15th August 2016, 02:10 PM

estcrh When were they exported? 15th August 2016, 02:49 PM

ariel I hate to disagree with... 15th August 2016, 05:03 PM

Ian Andreas, Please take time to... 15th August 2016, 05:35 PM

Andreas The last sentence indeed... 15th August 2016, 05:59 PM

Andreas Ian, here is the translation,... 16th August 2016, 06:08 PM

Andreas Thank you Gavin, but... 15th August 2016, 01:54 PM

estcrh Ariel I understand what you... 14th August 2016, 04:49 PM

ariel So THAT was the question! ... 15th August 2016, 12:17 AM

estcrh Thanks, so basically three... 15th August 2016, 09:52 PM

ariel Agree with first 2. For... 15th August 2016, 10:03 PM

estcrh I personally think that... 16th August 2016, 12:11 AM

ariel double posting 16th August 2016, 12:34 AM

ariel Well, in this case tulwar is... 16th August 2016, 12:57 AM

estcrh I can not comment on... 16th August 2016, 03:26 PM

ariel Well, it depends how you look... 16th August 2016, 03:46 PM

estcrh Unfortunately you know that... 16th August 2016, 04:06 PM

Jim McDougall I'm inclined to agree here... 16th August 2016, 05:51 PM

estcrh Jim, I think that according... 16th August 2016, 06:13 PM

ariel Well, I hate quoting myself,... 17th August 2016, 12:30 AM

kronckew yes, semantics, but any noun... 17th August 2016, 07:21 AM

Gavin Nugent I am all for study and... 17th August 2016, 08:48 AM

ariel Gavin, Yes and no. ... 17th August 2016, 10:55 AM

Gavin Nugent With consideration to the a... 17th August 2016, 12:09 PM

estcrh Names are very important when... 18th August 2016, 01:02 AM

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ariel Seems to me that we are once... 18th August 2016, 01:54 AM

mariusgmioc Hello Ariel, Yet, after... 20th August 2016, 07:49 AM

estcrh If there is some certainty... 20th August 2016, 09:05 AM

ariel Guys, Everybody is free to... 20th August 2016, 10:04 AM

Ian Guys, back in post #75 of... 20th August 2016, 12:58 PM

mariusgmioc Hello Ian, I believe the... 20th August 2016, 01:26 PM

Ian Marius: I was specifically... 20th August 2016, 01:37 PM

mariusgmioc Yes Ian, I agree, but my... 20th August 2016, 01:45 PM

Ian Marius: I understand and... 20th August 2016, 02:06 PM

ariel Yes, it is, if we ignore the... 20th August 2016, 02:30 PM

mariusgmioc What kind of Bukharan sabers... 20th August 2016, 02:52 PM

ariel https://www.youtube.com/watch?... 20th August 2016, 03:26 PM

mariusgmioc Thanks! Brought back... 20th August 2016, 06:04 PM

ariel Glad you liked it. Enjoy! 20th August 2016, 07:02 PM

kamachate Hi all. Thanks for this... 24th August 2016, 09:25 AM

ariel True enough. Prior to their... 24th August 2016, 10:24 AM

mariusgmioc Very interesting comments!... 24th August 2016, 10:27 AM

kamachate Good point, Ariel: "It was... 24th August 2016, 11:27 AM

ariel Suggest reading "Sabers of... 24th August 2016, 01:44 PM

ariel And Khevsurs. But those ... 24th August 2016, 01:49 PM

kamachate Interestingly, Circassian... 24th August 2016, 03:03 PM

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estcrh Plenty of shashka here,... 24th August 2016, 04:21 PM

ariel These are muhajirs, the... 24th August 2016, 07:18 PM

ariel Caucasians serving in the... 24th August 2016, 07:29 PM

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kamachate Thank you both Estcrh and... 24th August 2016, 09:15 PM

ariel I think it was Gutowskl who... 24th August 2016, 10:25 PM

estcrh My opinion based on what I... 24th August 2016, 11:02 PM

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ariel Eric, I think you are... 24th August 2016, 11:41 PM

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ariel And a million $$ question:... 25th August 2016, 12:48 AM

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ariel +1 25th August 2016, 12:52 AM

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estcrh Ariel, these are great images... 25th August 2016, 01:33 AM

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ariel Here are 2 examples of... 25th August 2016, 02:44 AM

ariel Strangely, both very much... 25th August 2016, 02:49 AM

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estcrh Like these? 25th August 2016, 04:14 AM

ariel Yes. The very same:-) 25th August 2016, 11:04 AM

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Andreas Hello Kamachate, Your posts... 26th August 2016, 04:58 PM

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estcrh So how would this be... 26th August 2016, 06:52 PM

ariel Well, can I call i this one ... 27th August 2016, 03:28 AM

estcrh I think this one qualifies. 27th August 2016, 07:32 AM

kamachate Dear Andreas, I know the... 27th August 2016, 07:17 PM

estcrh Kamachate, you just explained... 27th August 2016, 07:42 PM

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kamachate Then, here is a pseudo... 27th August 2016, 09:24 PM

ariel I think you were right not... 28th August 2016, 03:40 AM

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estcrh Very crude and basic, this... 28th August 2016, 02:22 PM

ariel Both Caucasian, IMHO. 29th August 2016, 03:21 AM

kamachate That's also what I think, but... 29th August 2016, 05:24 PM

estcrh Ok, I am still trying to... 29th August 2016, 06:57 PM

Ian Estrch, I believe that... 30th August 2016, 02:50 AM

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estcrh Thanks Ian, I forgot about... 30th August 2016, 04:55 AM

kamachate Compared to the one I shared,... 29th August 2016, 05:11 PM

Ian kamachate: Thank you for... 28th August 2016, 04:48 AM

Andreas Thank you very much for your... 28th August 2016, 08:18 AM

ariel Kamachate, Thank you very... 28th August 2016, 01:26 PM

estcrh Very good information Ariel,... 26th August 2016, 04:54 PM

Kiziria Allow me to point out that... 12th October 2017, 11:22 PM

ariel Vakhtang, Glad to finally... 13th October 2017, 05:33 AM

mahratt Parangs, some Indian examples... 9th August 2016, 12:38 PM

ariel Exactly true! Otherwise we... 8th August 2016, 04:49 PM

kronckew caucasus mountains range thru... 8th August 2016, 04:54 PM

Kiziria Allow me slight correction.... 12th October 2017, 11:03 PM

Mercenary As well as Ottomans, all... 8th December 2017, 08:37 PM

OsobistGB Let me and myself get... 9th December 2017, 02:37 PM

ariel All true. Caucasian... 9th December 2017, 07:33 PM

Mercenary [QUOTE=ariel]All true. I... 9th December 2017, 08:51 PM

ariel [QUOTE=Mercenary] I fail... 9th December 2017, 09:30 PM

Mercenary [QUOTE=ariel] Mughal -... 10th December 2017, 04:45 AM

ariel I am choosing not to... 10th December 2017, 03:32 PM

Mercenary There was not any... 10th December 2017, 07:20 PM

ariel Many answers to your... 11th December 2017, 05:06 AM

Mercenary Many thanks. I'll do. 11th December 2017, 10:58 AM

Mercenary Everything is easier. Russia... 9th December 2017, 09:06 PM

ariel I am talking about a dominant... 9th December 2017, 09:28 PM

Mercenary Mameluke swords in Europe in... 10th December 2017, 04:19 AM

Jon MB I rather agree with much of ... 14th December 2017, 03:19 PM

Ian Jon makes a good point about... 15th December 2017, 07:32 AM

ariel I agree. Adoption and... 15th December 2017, 07:50 PM

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ALEX Here is an unusual Central... 9th January 2019, 02:17 PM

ariel The blade looks almost... 9th January 2019, 04:23 PM

ALEX Thank you, Ariel. I had the... 9th January 2019, 04:34 PM

mahratt ALEX, this is a typical item... 9th January 2019, 07:39 PM

Jim McDougall Mahratt is right on one... 9th January 2019, 08:35 PM

ariel This is just a guardless... 9th January 2019, 10:02 PM

mahratt I see some lack of logic in... 10th January 2019, 04:33 AM

ALEX Dmitry, thanks again! Based... 10th January 2019, 08:31 AM

mahratt Although Bukhara shashkas are... 10th January 2019, 08:54 AM

ALEX Dmitry, Thank you very much... 10th January 2019, 09:00 AM

mahratt Unfortunately, in... 10th January 2019, 10:17 AM

Jim McDougall Actually the monograph on... 9th January 2019, 04:52 PM

ALEX Dear Jim. You're absolutely... 9th January 2019, 05:24 PM

Jim McDougall Thanks very much Alex, and... 9th January 2019, 06:53 PM

TVV A somewhat similar blade is... 10th January 2019, 06:59 AM

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mahratt I think this is the... 10th January 2019, 07:09 AM

ALEX Teodor, Thank you for the... 10th January 2019, 08:16 AM

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mahratt I am very happy if I could... 10th January 2019, 08:34 AM

ariel Alex and Jim, We have... 10th January 2019, 09:50 AM

ariel BTW, Alex, nice finding at a... 10th January 2019, 09:59 AM

mahratt To pour something from one... 10th January 2019, 10:48 AM

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mahratt Alex, do not pay attention to... 10th January 2019, 10:54 AM

Jim McDougall Alex, thank you for the... 10th January 2019, 04:21 PM

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Jim McDougall In looking more at the... 10th January 2019, 07:14 PM

mahratt Dear Jim! With the ethnic... 10th January 2019, 07:30 PM

ariel Reference, please. 10th January 2019, 08:08 PM

mahratt Семенов А.А. Два слова о... 10th January 2019, 08:37 PM

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ariel .... which is exactly what... 10th January 2019, 11:23 PM

Ian This thread has been watched... 11th January 2019, 12:29 AM

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mahratt You inconsiderate. In the... 8th August 2016, 04:59 PM

ariel That is what happens when a... 8th August 2016, 04:29 PM

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ariel There is a difference between... 8th August 2016, 04:42 PM

Jim McDougall Indeed it is :) but good to... 8th August 2016, 05:09 PM

Jim McDougall Yikes! Just saw al these... 8th August 2016, 05:13 PM

mahratt Jim, I think, we can speak of... 8th August 2016, 05:16 PM

Ian Gentlemen, please take a time... 8th August 2016, 05:23 PM

ariel Ian, One cannot define a... 8th August 2016, 06:55 PM

mahratt Very, very many words :) ... 8th August 2016, 07:10 PM

ariel No, laddie, it is "checkers"... 8th August 2016, 07:12 PM

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Andreas Hello, A couple of... 8th August 2016, 07:23 PM

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mahratt I'll be glad to see this... 8th August 2016, 07:31 PM

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mahratt I think we all know, that... 8th August 2016, 08:19 PM

Andreas I do, do you mean that the... 8th August 2016, 09:48 PM

ariel Andreas, Why do you think... 8th August 2016, 10:24 PM

Andreas Ariel, I assumed that Mahratt... 8th August 2016, 10:44 PM

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mahratt Quite possible. I'm not... 8th August 2016, 10:26 PM

mahratt I explain why must not talk... 8th August 2016, 07:27 PM

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ariel Just get the catalogue of... 8th August 2016, 04:55 PM

mahratt You could not demonstrate... 8th August 2016, 05:07 PM

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27th August 2016, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Well, can I call i this one a "pseudoshashka"?:-)

I think this one qualifies.

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