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mahratt When in India "died"... 4th February 2016, 04:44 AM

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ariel I have shown pictures of 2... 22nd February 2016, 09:47 PM

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ariel The REAL modern wootz! I... 22nd February 2016, 10:45 PM

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Rashka Vatnik Kirill Rivkin is right! 25th February 2016, 03:06 PM

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Ibrahiim al Balooshi Salaams All, ... 25th February 2016, 05:39 PM

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ariel Estcrh: Kirk and rose are... 25th February 2016, 10:37 PM

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estcrh This shows that an ingot of... 25th February 2016, 02:49 PM

Emanuel Cool thanks Eric. Greg... 25th February 2016, 03:16 PM

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estcrh I have read several theories... 25th February 2016, 03:42 PM

ariel Ibrahiim, This blurb from... 25th February 2016, 06:51 PM

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ariel I have yet to see a single... 27th February 2016, 08:27 PM

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ariel Glad this discussion was of... 29th February 2016, 07:30 PM

Richard Furrer I have not tested any old... 4th March 2016, 06:28 PM

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estcrh Dagger with wootz steel blade... 23rd February 2016, 03:31 PM

ALEX Wootz is refferred as Bulat... 23rd February 2016, 04:56 PM

ariel Alex, King Erekle saber is... 23rd February 2016, 05:25 PM

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estcrh Emanual, there does seem to... 25th February 2016, 01:31 AM

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ariel This topic was duplicated on... 26th February 2016, 04:31 AM

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Richard Furrer

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Originally Posted by Roland_M

In my opinion Indian wootz is a good steel for daggers but unsuitable for swords and sabers.

In all times, a good blacksmith was always very expensive, whether in India, Japan or Europe, everywhere.

Roland

Roland, Then why were so many swords made from that material? Pretty only?

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