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			They indeed are, 'Nando, 
		
		
		
			And what's more, they are well documented in early-16th c. period artwork; from top: - painting Die Schlacht im Walde, Nuremberg, which took place on June 19, 1502; dated 1502, Germanisches Nationalmuseum; author's photos - Diebold Schilling, Luzerner Chronik, 1513 (image at bottom) Best, Michl  | 
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